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Subject: BS: Fun With Dick & Jane From: Azizi Date: 21 Jun 06 - 05:57 PM This thread is not about the birds & the bees. It's about names & nicknames and how some of them start out innocent and then get all kinds of extraneous connotations attach to them... names like "Dick". For me-and I believe for alot of other people-that name conjures up images that are decidely un-innocent. But there was a time when that nickname for "Richard" was so innocent that it was used in that hard working children's series of books that helped me and alot of other children learn to read. But any male named "Dick" now better be prepared for alot of ribbing. Not only is "dick" a euphemism for you know what, but the notorious exploits of a certain US vice president aren't helping that name win friends and influence people. Poor Dick! As a personal name, I think you've outlived your usefulness. But you would win the prize if there was a contest for which name's colloquial use raises up the most naughty images. And so I wonder...what other names evoke naughty or negative images? {not that naughty & negative are necessarily the same thing} And what other names need to bite the dust because-in your opinion-they are too old fashioned to be given to kids nowadays? Remember, this is all for fun. So if your name is Dick {as at least one Mudcat member's name is who I can think of} I want to say up front "My bad"... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fun With Dick & Jane From: John MacKenzie Date: 21 Jun 06 - 06:01 PM Peter, Willie, John Thomas, Fanny, etc. G. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fun With Dick & Jane From: Azizi Date: 21 Jun 06 - 06:06 PM Thomas? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fun With Dick & Jane From: John MacKenzie Date: 21 Jun 06 - 06:14 PM John Thomas, was used as a name to describe the male member in Lady Chatterley's Lover by D H Lawrence. G. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fun With Dick & Jane From: Azizi Date: 21 Jun 06 - 06:15 PM I guess you don't mean "Uncle Tom" as in "a excessively submissive Black man who kowtows to White people". Or "doubting Thomas". So??? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fun With Dick & Jane From: Azizi Date: 21 Jun 06 - 06:18 PM Okay...Thanks, Giok. As you can see, patience is not one of my many virtues... :o) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fun With Dick & Jane From: Rapparee Date: 21 Jun 06 - 06:20 PM Actually, Uncle Tom wasn't all that subservient in the novel. Like Stepin Fetchit he's gotten a bad rap. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fun With Dick & Jane From: jacqui.c Date: 21 Jun 06 - 06:39 PM I had a boss a few years ago called John Thomas. Name and nature in that case. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fun With Dick & Jane From: Azizi Date: 21 Jun 06 - 06:40 PM Rap has given Rap a bad rap. But that's a whole 'nuther story in more ways than one [Anyone remember H. Rap Brown?] |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fun With Dick & Jane From: bobad Date: 21 Jun 06 - 06:50 PM H. Rap Brown From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia H. Rap Brown (born October 4, 1943) came to prominence in the 1960s as a civil rights worker, black activist, and the Justice Minister of the Black Panther Party. He is perhaps most famous for his proclamation during that period that "violence is as American as cherry pie", as well as once stating that "If America don't come around, we're gonna' burn it down". Brown was born in Baton Rouge, Louisiana as Hubert Gerold Brown, and now goes by the name Jamil Abdullah al-Amin. His activism in the civil rights movement included involvement with the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC), of which he was named chairman in 1967. That same year, he was arrested in Cambridge, Maryland, and charged with "inciting to riot" as a result of a fiery speech he gave there. He left the SNCC and joined the Black Panthers in 1968. He appeared on the FBI's Ten Most Wanted List after avoiding trial on charges of inciting riot and of carrying a gun across state lines. He was arrested after a shoot-out in 1971 in New York. He spent five years (1971-1976) in the Attica Prison after a robbery conviction. While in prison, Brown converted to Islam and changed his name to Jamil Abdullah al-Amin. After his release, he opened a grocery store in Atlanta, Georgia and became a Muslim spiritual leader, preaching against drugs and gambling. He also became leader of the National Ummah, one of America's largest black Muslim groups. In 2002, he was found guilty of killing Ricky Leon Kinchen, a Fulton County, Georgia sheriff's deputy, and wounding another officer in a gunbattle at his store. Ironically, both officers were black [1]. He was sentenced to life imprisonment. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fun With Dick & Jane From: Rapparee Date: 21 Jun 06 - 06:58 PM I also remember Bobby Seales, Angela Davis, Huey Newton, Medgar and Charles Evans, and others. (Pardon the language, but.... Back in the mid-1940s, Senator Bilbo of Mississippi was speaking to a group of voters. At one point he said something like "And if y'all aren't careful, y'all be takin' orders from these li'l niggers here." He was right -- the kids were Medgar and Charles Evans.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fun With Dick & Jane From: Azizi Date: 21 Jun 06 - 07:22 PM Yep, some people have changed their names, and some haven't. Some people keep names that you figure they might want to change...like guys whose parents' named them "Elmo" not knowing that 20 years or so later Sesame Street would create a loveable red monster and give it that name. If my man's name were "Elmo", I'd have to call him something else...but I guess it wouldn't matter what I call him as long as I didn't call him late for dinner. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fun With Dick & Jane From: Azizi Date: 21 Jun 06 - 07:31 PM Were? was?? Sorry I still can't get the rule for that verb... But that has nothing to do with the price of beans in Boston... **** How about personal names or nicknames from non-English languages that mean something different in English? I once had neighbors from Brazil who had a 8 year old or some such age son whose nickname sounded like "ah hickey". When I heard that name I knew that kid was in trouble. And he definitely got teased because of that name...I had to explain to the mother why this was. I recall that she changed his nickname, but for the life of me I can't remember what she changed it to, or what Portuguese male name had the nickname "Ah Hicky"... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fun With Dick & Jane From: Barry Finn Date: 21 Jun 06 - 08:37 PM A friend of mine & a great friend of folk music in the northeast(US)is named Peter Johnson. He is a loveable guy, too. Barry |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fun With Dick & Jane From: frogprince Date: 21 Jun 06 - 09:03 PM Had a schoolmate whose name was Peter Dick. And maybe it's just me, but when I hear Cleetus, there's a little something I can't help thinking of... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fun With Dick & Jane From: Peace Date: 21 Jun 06 - 09:04 PM Yeah. NASCAR. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fun With Dick & Jane From: bobad Date: 21 Jun 06 - 09:11 PM Or duelling banjos. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fun With Dick & Jane From: dianavan Date: 21 Jun 06 - 09:26 PM Since we're on the subject: Does anyone know the stories of Carlos and Felicity? This has been bugging me for years. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fun With Dick & Jane From: GUEST Date: 21 Jun 06 - 09:28 PM Good. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fun With Dick & Jane From: Liz the Squeak Date: 22 Jun 06 - 06:26 AM Used to date an Andrew Simon Smith... Parents do the cruelest things..... LTS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fun With Dick & Jane From: Liz the Squeak Date: 22 Jun 06 - 06:27 AM Although going back to Dick and Jane, I noticed my local bookshop was carrying a few copies of Dick and Jane in Yiddish.... LTS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fun With Dick & Jane From: John MacKenzie Date: 22 Jun 06 - 06:38 AM The edited version? G.. It was a snip at the price! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fun With Dick & Jane From: Cool Beans Date: 22 Jun 06 - 11:40 AM I snicker at the name Muff Potter, a character in "Tom Sawyer," but it wasn't funny when I was a kid. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fun With Dick & Jane From: Becca72 Date: 22 Jun 06 - 12:04 PM When I was a child my older sisters called me "becca pecka" which, when said with a Maine accent, is quite insulting...does that count? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fun With Dick & Jane From: Azizi Date: 22 Jun 06 - 05:59 PM Becca72, yes, that counts if you considered it and still consider it insulting. So what did you call them? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fun With Dick & Jane From: Azizi Date: 22 Jun 06 - 06:07 PM Speaking of rhyming names, the principal of the elementary school that I attended was named Mr. Ushery. Since I was such a good girl, I never did this, but some kids used to go around chanting "Mr Ushery/Toilet flushery" I don't know if Mr. Ushery ever heard kids call him this. If so, I hope that he just smiled. And I hope he congratulated them for using their creativity. "Flushery" rhyming with "Ushery"-who but kids would have thought of that! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fun With Dick & Jane From: Becca72 Date: 23 Jun 06 - 08:45 AM Azizi, Unfortunately, since they are 12 and 11 years older than I ( and I was about 4 at the time), the best I could come up with was "Elaine the Pain" and "De-BRA"...They did it to my cousin, too, she was "pissy missy" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Fun With Dick & Jane From: Rasener Date: 23 Jun 06 - 08:53 AM Dick and Dom in Dutch means Thick and Stupid |
