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Subject: Solstice 2006 Stonehenge From: fiddler Date: 13 Jun 06 - 05:42 PM Anyone Else going? |
Subject: RE: Solstice 2006 Stonehenge From: Daithi Date: 14 Jun 06 - 07:24 AM More's the pitybut I'll be celebrating with other like mindeds in Hull! Have a great one, anyway! BB Dáithí |
Subject: RE: Solstice 2006 Stonehenge From: MBSGeorge Date: 14 Jun 06 - 09:39 AM When is it exactly? We slept through the one 2 years ago - got there early and thought we'd rest before getting up again later dur big mistake - and we missed last year. George |
Subject: RE: Solstice 2006 Stonehenge From: Mr Red Date: 15 Jun 06 - 08:20 AM Rollright Stones - always have a gathering and the land is owned by a trust that wants parties - nothing too big or rowdy I am told. Legend says an English man is not an Englishman unless he's seen mid summer dawn on Rollright stones. Now - how many stones are there? Good point when is it? Mid-Summer's day, the longest day, the latest sunset or the earliest sunrise? the four are not the same. The day I tried it was foggy. |
Subject: RE: Solstice 2006 Stonehenge From: Gwenzilla Date: 15 Jun 06 - 08:53 AM The Rollright Stones are the most beautiful and lively stone circle I've ever visited. I just love the atmosphere there. Yum. |
Subject: RE: Solstice 2006 Stonehenge From: GUEST Date: 15 Jun 06 - 09:44 AM And the moment of solstice is usually none of the above.... |
Subject: RE: Solstice 2006 Stonehenge From: Paul Burke Date: 15 Jun 06 - 10:02 AM I suspect either the earliest sunrise or the latest sunset would be most useful to late neolithic/ early bronze age people- though I also suspect the winter solstice would be more useful too. And measurement at the equinoxes would be more accurate, as the sun's position is changing faster then. After all, the important thing is to stop the day count/ lunar count getting too far out wrt the seasons, otherwise you'll be celebrating harvest in May or planting too late. Colin Renfrew's excellent book "Before Civilisation" has some cogent things to say about the relationship between early farming and astronomically- aligned megalithic constructions. One interesting possible precursor he cites is the Hopi horizon calendar. By observing where the sun is on the horizon at significant times of the year, you can ensure that the events belonging to those times take place at the same time every year. This assumes a reasonably open horizon, but with distant hills or other features to act as fiducials, and obviously only works for one community- other communities would have to create their own calendar. It would be no great step to mark the events with stones aligned with the horizon features, and once you've done that you have a recipe for a transferrable calendar, perhaps associated with a greater scale of social organisation and the emergence of a priestly/ aristocratic power- caste. |
Subject: RE: Solstice 2006 Stonehenge From: GUEST Date: 15 Jun 06 - 10:24 AM It doesn't have to make sense to be experienced. Blood-thirsty druids. Nice monument. |
Subject: RE: Solstice 2006 Stonehenge From: frogprince Date: 15 Jun 06 - 01:53 PM Will there be a bunch of nubile young things dancing nekkid? |
Subject: RE: Solstice 2006 Stonehenge From: Herga Kitty Date: 15 Jun 06 - 03:36 PM The Druids celebrate the Solstice at Stonehenge at dawn on 21 June, I think George. (At least they did when I was a teenager and went there with the friends who'd introduced me to the folk club). Kitty |
Subject: RE: Solstice 2006 Stonehenge From: fiddler Date: 15 Jun 06 - 04:34 PM Thats about it Kitty. A good night these daysa - organised - not like th old days but last years sunrise was the best yet. For full info check out the English heritage website. |
Subject: RE: Solstice 2006 Stonehenge From: pavane Date: 16 Jun 06 - 08:01 AM Stonehenge does of course pre-date the Druids by some 2000 years or more. In 2700 b.c., there were no Celts there, just the beaker folk, I think. |
Subject: RE: Solstice 2006 Stonehenge From: Les in Chorlton Date: 16 Jun 06 - 01:34 PM Nice one Paul, Renfrew's book is a great one. Lots of interesting factual proto-history that tells us so much more about who we are and what we have been up to for thousands of years, look out though, is that morris bells I hear? |
Subject: RE: Solstice 2006 Stonehenge From: GUEST, Topsie Date: 19 Jun 06 - 07:43 PM http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/server/show/nav.9587 with a link to a couple of pages of 'regulations/conditions' Let's hope they turn their "ambient (whatever that means) lighting" off before the actual sunrise this year. |
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