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BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????

Art Thieme 05 Apr 03 - 11:38 AM
Padre 05 Apr 03 - 12:04 PM
catspaw49 05 Apr 03 - 12:05 PM
Charley Noble 05 Apr 03 - 12:17 PM
Rapparee 05 Apr 03 - 01:17 PM
Allan C. 05 Apr 03 - 01:39 PM
Dead Horse 05 Apr 03 - 01:50 PM
Don Firth 05 Apr 03 - 02:24 PM
GUEST,Clint Keller 05 Apr 03 - 02:35 PM
Art Thieme 05 Apr 03 - 02:37 PM
Troll 05 Apr 03 - 03:07 PM
katlaughing 05 Apr 03 - 04:49 PM
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Mudlark 05 Apr 03 - 05:55 PM
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Rapparee 05 Apr 03 - 08:24 PM
Blackcatter 05 Apr 03 - 09:27 PM
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Subject: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: Art Thieme
Date: 05 Apr 03 - 11:38 AM

When I was a kid, Superman always said this as he rose up into the air on a flight somewhere. In the 1940s us kids were always arguing about the fine points of serious topics, like the subject of my querie. My question is this----Did Superman just enjoy saying this at the start of each flight--sort of talking to himself for courage? Or did saying, "UP, UP AND AWAY" act as a super invocation of something magical (or maybe alien from Krypton) that had to be done/uttered in order for the man of steel to be able to FLY?????

Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: Padre
Date: 05 Apr 03 - 12:04 PM

Art, I believe that Superman just liked saying it. However, in order for Billy Batson (sp?) to become Captain Marvel, he HAD to say 'SHAZAAM' only then did his costume appear and his powers activate. I believe he also had a sister who became '? Marvel, and a younger brother who also turned into a super hero, but I don't remember what they said to do it. Anybody out there remember?

Also, there was a comic book about a little boy and his (rabbit?)Sniffles who traveled around seeing neat things. The boy used to say something like: "Now I shut my eyes real tight, Now I wish with all my might. Magic words of Poof, Poof, Piffles - Make me just as smwll as Sniffles." When he did that, he in fact did shrink to some tiny size and they would be off on another adventure. The only one I remember now is a visit to the Patent Office!! Where the boy learns that 'Pat Pending isn't a man, but the abbreviation for Patent Pending.

The mind is a strange storage room!

Padre


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: catspaw49
Date: 05 Apr 03 - 12:05 PM

I thought it was something he said while getting an enema........

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: Charley Noble
Date: 05 Apr 03 - 12:17 PM

Art-

I'm sure it served the same purpose as a golfer shouting "Fore!", as a polite but assertive way to clear away his flight path.

You know, I've never given this much thought! But the next time I have to fly I might give it a go.

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: Rapparee
Date: 05 Apr 03 - 01:17 PM

'Twas "Mary Jane and Sniffles," unless my rememberer is wrong. And Sniffles was a mouse.

I always thought that "Up, Up and Away!" was Superman's motto or something.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: Allan C.
Date: 05 Apr 03 - 01:39 PM

"...in my beautiful baloon" -- That's what I thought this thread was going to be about. I didn't know it was going to be something far more serious.

I'll have to admit, I had never thought about this particular aspect of Superman. I spent most of my time pondering the entire question of his ability to fly. After all, it was reportedly the difference in gravity that allowed this phenomenon in the first place. In effect, he was jumping rather than actually flying. This would explain the standard two-steps-then-jump routine he always did as he cried out the words you mention. But that is where the logic of the whole thing went haywire. I could totally get behind his being able to jump from one place to another; but never understood how he could change his trajectory so radically anytime he wanted. It was something that I pondered at length quite often when I was a kid.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: Dead Horse
Date: 05 Apr 03 - 01:50 PM

I have always assumed it was on account of him having to change hurriedly in telephone booths, and subsequently getting a wedgie!


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: Don Firth
Date: 05 Apr 03 - 02:24 PM

(Love these deep, philosophical questions.)

I think the "Up! Up and away!" schick was for the benefit of the radio listeners. It sort of provided a "visual." I don't recall his saying it in the comic books. At least not until the radio program started (God, I'm OLD!!). Initially, he could "fly" because of earth's lighter gravity and because he was just so bloody strong. But there are certain disadvantages to being a ballistic missile, especially if you miscalculate a bit. If he landed on a wooden roof, for example, he'd probably wind up wrecking the place by plummeting through to the basement. Helluva mess! Embarrassing. They sort of slyly morphed him into being able to fly. 'Course, in the movie, he could alter his molecular structure at will, which was a bit easier to accept for sophisticated audiences. By the way, I understand that his being vulnerable to Kryptonite was an afterthought. Since he was so strong and indestructible (bullets bouncing off his chest and all that), the necessary feeling of suspense was missing. He was never actually in danger of bodily harm. It gets dull after a bit if the hero is both invincible and invulnerable.

I always preferred Batman. He was just a regular mortal (no Superpowers, other than being a multimillionaire), so in a knock-down drag-out brawl with the bad buys, he had to be good at what he did. Didn't always make it either. I remember at least one issue of Detective Comics where Batman got shot, and while he was in the hospital hovering between life and death, a very worried Robin had to go it alone and solve the case.

The Batman movies. The first one, I thought, was really good. Casting Michael Keaton against type was brilliant, and Jack Nicholson as The Joker was a real hoot! Second movie, not bad, mainly because of Danny DeVito as the Penguin. But the rest? PEEYOU!!

(My literary critique of the day. . . .)

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: GUEST,Clint Keller
Date: 05 Apr 03 - 02:35 PM

That was Mary Marvel, I think. Captain Marvel Junior was no relation; he was a crippled newsboy whose great admiration for Captain M got him The Power. For a while there was Uncle Marvel, who was a Frank Morgan-type phony, but the other Marvels let him get away with it because they liked him. & maybe more.

My god, how come I know all this? A misspent childhood?

(And Captain M was based on Fred MacMurray. How about that?)

clint


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: Art Thieme
Date: 05 Apr 03 - 02:37 PM

I remember Superman using his x-ray vision to see Wonder Woman naked and writhing on her bed. He got so turned on he crashed through her roof and landed on top of her. A few days later I saw S. walking down the street looking down and dejected. I asked him why he was depressed. He answered, I can't really talk about it, but I just hope the Invisible Man has a good proctologist."

Art


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: Troll
Date: 05 Apr 03 - 03:07 PM

I believe that Capt. Marvel Jr. was named Freddy Freeman.

troll


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: katlaughing
Date: 05 Apr 03 - 04:49 PM

What a bunch of old folkies! **BG** I AM sure he said it as a Magic Mantra of the Highest Order of the Benevolent Order of Super Power Heros and Dieties authorised by the Authorities of Childhood Fantasies and Strong Beliefs under the Auspices of the Save the World, All Things Great and Small, Amalgamated Federation of InterGalatic Entities and their Minions!

kidkat


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: Allan C.
Date: 05 Apr 03 - 04:59 PM

I have super-hero comic books to thank for teaching me the meaning of the word, "minions" kat. I doubt I have ever seen it used elsewhere.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: catspaw49
Date: 05 Apr 03 - 04:59 PM

Well you can think that kat, but personally,I still think he was getting an enema.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: Mudlark
Date: 05 Apr 03 - 05:55 PM

I always thot "Up, Up, and AWAYyyyy!" was just sheer exhuberance, sort of a "Yippee, I can flyyyy!" kind of thing. Altho Don's explanation makes more sense...and Kat's is a great deal more spiffy.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: catspaw49
Date: 05 Apr 03 - 06:01 PM

Well yeah, but the enema explanation is a lot more utilitarian!

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: Padre
Date: 05 Apr 03 - 06:31 PM

Spaw, Did you study with Jeremy Bentham?


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: catspaw49
Date: 05 Apr 03 - 07:04 PM

Yes I did and I believe in the greatest amount of crappy jokes for the greatest number of people.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: Rapparee
Date: 05 Apr 03 - 08:24 PM

Then, Spaw, do you believe that after you die you should be stuffed like Bentham was? If so, where should we send your body?


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: Blackcatter
Date: 05 Apr 03 - 09:27 PM

The interesting part was the sort of two step skip-junm he needed to get flying on TV and the movies. The 1980s TV show Greatest American Hero discussed that issue. It was needed for the hero in that show to fly as well.

Traditionally there are two worlds of comic superheroes. Which are you - Marvel or DC?

I'm a Marvel because of the character flaws many of their heroes had and for the whole "mutant" slant.

Give me the Fantastic Four, X-men, and my all-time favorite: Prince Namor, the Sub-Mariner!


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: GUEST,Clint Keller
Date: 05 Apr 03 - 10:01 PM

And the accent is on "sub:" submarine-er, not sub-MARiner.

ck


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: Padre
Date: 05 Apr 03 - 10:01 PM

Marvel. When I was stationed in Wildflecken Germany, they were my favorite comics. The Silver Surfer rules!!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: Blackcatter
Date: 05 Apr 03 - 11:01 PM

I didn't know that Clint - We've always pronnounced it the way mariner is normally pronnounced. I could have sworn that was right. I certainly wouldnn't want to pronnounce his name incorrectly, he was always pretty pissed at humans.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: katlaughing
Date: 05 Apr 03 - 11:29 PM

Just call me Spiffykat! The only comics I ever read were Classics Illustrated!!


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: Art Thieme
Date: 05 Apr 03 - 11:47 PM

Wasn't Mr. Spiffykatpqzmxylpplix the name of some alien thing---sort of a gremlin that would bug Superman all to hell kind of like Peter Pain, that little devil who was shaped like a pickel that would sit on your shoulder sticking the joint with his pitchfork until you got hip and bought Mentholatum Deep Heat Rub or some such topical arthritis pain killer??? What was it with the little guy?

Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: Allan C.
Date: 06 Apr 03 - 08:13 AM

Yeah, you're right, Art. Strangely, a very similar critter eventually came on the scene in the Flintstone's cartoons.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: catspaw49
Date: 06 Apr 03 - 09:49 AM

The little gremlin was Mr. Mxyzptlk. I think it was him who was giving Superman the enema.

Rapaire, please place me in the lobby of the gastro-enterology lab of The Ohio State University Hospital. I figure there at least I can be useful as I'll also probably be passing gas for at least 100 years after I die.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: JJ
Date: 06 Apr 03 - 10:36 AM

Ah, Peter Pain! He did his dirty work in Sunday color comics advertising Ben-Gay, invented by a French doctor named Bengue (sorry, no accent). I figure Dr. B must have been a relative of Chef Boy-Ar-Dee, who also had his name (Boyardi) Americanized.

I know that entire "Sniffles" incantation, but cannot recall any contact with the program. Implanted memory? Reincarnation?


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: Rapparee
Date: 06 Apr 03 - 11:03 AM

As I remember it, Mary Jane had to close her eyes, cross her fingers, wish really hard, and recite the "Sniffle" incantation for it to work. We tried to get my sister to try it (so my brothers and I could stomp her) but it didn't work.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: Bill D
Date: 06 Apr 03 - 02:19 PM

I remember ALL this stuff...and one which hasn't been mentioned yet is the guy who could run so fast..(The Flash?)...in order to turn on his afterburners, he had to recite a 'secret formula'...boy, what a powerful thing! He would chant "3X2(9YZ)4A" and then rush off at the speed of light to save the universe! I tried it, but I guess I got the inflection wrong...

And I remember this one very silly Capt. Marvel story where this old man tried to sue, claiming Capt Marvel was not the real one, and after a few pages of rambling nonsense, it turned he was a Civil War vet, named Abner Marvel, and "General Beaureguard, himself, appointed me Captain, and ain't no one DIS-appointed me yet!" I was like 11 years old, and I thought that was the lame-est story line I had ever heard...but the older I get, the more I appreciate it....reminds me of life.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: Mudlark
Date: 06 Apr 03 - 06:26 PM

If the little gremlin was Mr. Mxyzptlk, then is that where Lil Abner's character Joe Bytzslk, the guy who was always under his own personal black cloud, got his name?

I didn't care much about flying, or running real fast...but I sure wanted a pair of those Spring Shoes that would let me jump over fences with the greatest of ease...


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: katlaughing
Date: 06 Apr 03 - 06:34 PM

My Rog says he can't remember Superman ever saying the Magic Mantra on the television series. Do any of you remember it?


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 06 Apr 03 - 06:42 PM

I don't remember Barry Allen (The Flash... ) ever having to recite any formula...

Interesting thing about Barry Allen... he's one of the very few super heros who's died, and NEVER been brought back... He's only ever been replaced by younger people...

Used to know a guy back home named Barry Allen, so we called him, "THe Fastest Dead Man Alive"

Superhero mantras... My fave...

In brightest day
In blackest night
No evil shall escape my sight
Let those who worship evils might
Beware my power, Green Lanterns Light!

Ahhhh... Hal Jordan... the world needs you...

Marvel or DC?? Give me Marvel... Marvel has Wolverine... and he's THE BEST!

Batman makes the best graphic novels though... just don't get me started about the movies... gack...


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: Blackcatter
Date: 06 Apr 03 - 06:43 PM

I don't remember it either, but I've never really watched them.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: Art Thieme
Date: 06 Apr 03 - 06:58 PM

Kat, It was in the comic book and on the radio.

Does anyone remember the radio episode called Superman And The Mad Minnow Mystery ?? All the denizens of the ocean were running amok, beaching themselves and killing everthing including some bathers near the shore. Why, you might well, ask??? Because, as it turned out, pollution from a spill at a high corporate politico mucky-muck's chemical plant. Superman dove into the depths and talked to the dolphins who told him the entire sad story. He then conbfronted the bad guy and took him for a flying tour of what his chem plant was doing to the world's wildlife. The guy started to CRY!!! Then he repented and cleaned up his entire act and the polluted waters as well.-------------- But the most hilarious part of this episode was the porpoise talk. It was a cross between people talking who had inhaled helium and a speeded up vinyl record of Yma Sumak. I've still got it on a cassette somewhere. It was on a record we bought for Chris when he was young. And Carol and I start to laugh every time we think about it.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: Art Thieme
Date: 06 Apr 03 - 07:06 PM

That hop-and-a-skip that Superman did before taking off on the TV show was how Sammy Sosa learned to do that hoppity thing he does after hitting a home run. ;-)

But seriously, folks, S. did that on TV because he was hitting a springboard to launch him into the air onto a trampoline or into the wall of a padded room. Yes, we've come a long way since then with special effects !

Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: Don Firth
Date: 06 Apr 03 - 09:41 PM

On my bookshelves, I have two gems—two books of pure, glorious, self-indulgent nostalgia-wallow:
The Great Radio Heroes, by Jim Harmon, Ace Books, New York, 1967 (mass market paperback);
and
All in Color for a Dime, by Dick Lupoff and Don Thompson, Ace Books, New York, 1970 (mass market paperback).
These are wa-a-ay out of print, but a used bookstore may cough up one or the other or both. If not, the first is available HERE, and the second HERE.

Definitely worth looking for

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: JennyO
Date: 07 Apr 03 - 12:07 AM

I don't think he said anything on TV as he took off. They just played that bit of music - you know, dum de dah, dum de dum de dah etc, and the whistling wind noise. Remember the introduction - "Look, up in the sky - it's a bird, it's a plane, it's Superman!" - and all the rest about tall buildings.

I always thought that it was interesting that it was George Reeves who played Superman on TV, and years later, in the movies it was Christopher Reeve. Those two guys haven't had much luck, either.

Jenny


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: GUEST,celtaddict
Date: 07 Apr 03 - 12:59 AM

I myself am partial to "Who knows what evil lurks in the minds of men? THE SHADOW KNOWS..."


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: Art Thieme
Date: 07 Apr 03 - 10:51 AM

...and the Lone Ranger's name was REED.

Art


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: Bill D
Date: 07 Apr 03 - 11:11 AM

hah! I knew "THe Flash" sounded wrong! It was Johnny Quick that recited the formula!

Trust your OLD memories, it's what happened 10 minutes ago that eludes me.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: jeffp
Date: 07 Apr 03 - 11:40 AM

And the Green Hornet was the direct descendant of the Lone Ranger's brother.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: Don Firth
Date: 07 Apr 03 - 02:08 PM

Mark it on your calendar. The first broadcast of The Lone Ranger was on January 31, 1933 on WXYZ in Detroit, Michigan, and it ran until August 31, 1955. The program was broadcast 3268 times over that time span and spread to over 400 radio stations across the United States.

The history of the Lone Ranger:   His real name was John Reid, born in 1850. He was part of a group of Texas Rangers that was ambushed by a band of outlaws know as the Cavandish Gang. All the Texas Rangers were killed in the ambush except John Reid. John's older brother, Daniel, was one of the Rangers killed. John Reid was seriously wounded and left for dead. Tonto came on the scene of the massacre and found that one of the rangers was still alive. Tonto hid him away and nursed him back to health. John Reid, determined to track down the Cavandish Gang and bring them to justice, made a black mask from the vest of his dead brother and assumed the persona of "The Lone Ranger." He, with the aid of Tonto and an extraordinary white stallion, Silver, succeeded in bringing in the Cavandish Gang, then they roved the West, fighting crime and injustice wherever he found it.

John Reid, aka The Lone Ranger, was an extremely fast draw and an incredible shot with a Colt revolver. He never killed anyone. He could shoot the gun out of a villain's hand, often just as it cleared the holster.

Later on, he was joined in his quest for justice by young Dan Reid, his dead brother's son.

Dan Reid was the grandfather of Britt Reid. Britt Reid became the publisher of a newspaper called "the Daily Sentinel." In his position, he learned of many crimes before the police did, often matters of corruption that the police were powerless to do anything about. Remembering stories his grandfather told him of his great-granduncle, John Reid, he adopted a mask and the persona of The Green Hornet, and he and his faithful Indian companion Filipino valet, Kato, would ride by night in the high-powered car, the Black Beauty, and root out big-city crime and corruption. The Green Hornet wouldn't kill, either. He used a gun that jetted a cloud of fast-acting sleep-gas. The police, who had received and anonymous tip (from the Green Hornet), would arrive to pick up the now unconscious crooks just as the Green Hornet and Kato drove off in the Black Beauty.
("Hiyo Sil—" No, wrong show!)

The Green Hornet first appeared on radio on January 31, 1936, also on WXYZ in Detroit. The writer was Fran Stricker, who also wrote the Lone Ranger. [Side note: Britt Reid's valet, Kato, started out as Japanese. Then came Pearl Harbor on December 7th, 1941, and abracadabra!! Kato was suddenly Filipino!]

Jim Harmon, who wrote The Great Radio Heroes (mentioned in my post above) was thoroughly hooked on the Lone Ranger when he was a kid. His father told him that he knew the Lone Ranger, but young Jim was sure that his dad was pulling his leg. One day they had a visitor, a friend of his father's name Brace Beemer. Beemer was a big man with red hair, a round face, freckles, and a bit of a beer-gut. He was a radio announcer by trade. That deep voice sounded right, but the Lone Ranger was tall and slender and muscular. Obviously, young Jim concluded, this was not the Lone Ranger. Some years later, of course, he realized that this was indeed the Lone Ranger.

Don Firth
(I love this stuff!!!)


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: Forum Lurker
Date: 07 Apr 03 - 03:00 PM

I'm definately a Marvel fan. Besides Batman, all of the DC heroes were so over-powered it just didn't make for a good story. The X-Men, on the other hand, were not only quite mortal and fallible, but had to deal with anti-mutant prejudice. Especially with the new movies and the TV series, Magneto has become one of the best tragic villains of comic history.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: Amos
Date: 07 Apr 03 - 08:09 PM

It's beginning to look like fantasy comics and radio shows are the REAL generating power behind folksingers!!

A


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: SINSULL
Date: 07 Apr 03 - 08:32 PM

There was a really bad new version of the Lone Ranger on TV about two weeks ago. The soon to be lone ranger rides into town and sees a fair indian maiden being molested by the local baddies. He interferes and helps her up. In runs Tonto and kicks the crap out of him for molesting his sister. She explains "This is my hero." Both ask why would you help a red man...at that point i fell asleep.

Art - I will never see the Invisible Man in the same light again!

kat - Do you remember a Classic Comic about a wealthy young prince (or something) is kidnapped and mutilated by having the muscles in his face cut so that he always has a sort of death grin on? HELP! It has been driving me crazy for 20 years. French, I think...or is it Freedom these days?


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: catspaw49
Date: 07 Apr 03 - 09:09 PM

Sinsull, after you went to sleep the Lone Ranger asked Tonto for something special to help identify to all who he was. Tonto suggested the "Silver Bullet." It was at this point I realized that the version we were watching was in point of fact the gay porn version as the "Silver Bullets" turned out to be suppositories and he and Tonto spent the rest of the program zapping the bad guys.

Well hell, even I was getting tired of the enema thing...........

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Apr 03 - 09:38 PM

Spaw, I've been talking to the folks at the Ohio State U. med school, and we've made the necessary arrangements! After you die, you'll be stuffed and...are you ready?...used as the source for a perpetual flame!


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: Blackcatter
Date: 07 Apr 03 - 09:44 PM

Daredevil and Spiderman (with the help of recent movies) prove how cool the Marvel Universe was. Both had a lot of problems in their lives and still were driven to help. Batman - espeically as the Dark Knight - was really the only DC hero to seriously approach that.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: Forum Lurker
Date: 07 Apr 03 - 10:05 PM

I'm not so sure about Daredevil. What's his power? He's a blind man . . . who can SEE! While he is an admirable person, he leaves a little something to be desired as a superhero.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: catspaw49
Date: 07 Apr 03 - 10:23 PM

I know that DC had a series called Deadman Comics, but I figure a lot of this bunch were inveterate "National Lampoon" readers, so do you remember THEIR Deadman Comics? What a riot. These guys carried the stiff around and dropped him on burglars and murderers in the midst of their crime. It was a kind of "Weekend at Bernies" goes crimefighting. Used to crack me up.......

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 08 Apr 03 - 10:19 AM

'Up, up and away'? I just always assumed Supe's cape was directionally challenged and he had to tell it in which direction he wanted to fly. 'Twould be a mite embarassing to take a leaping bound upward and then be augered into the ground by a dumb-ass cape that doesn't know up from down.

Bruce


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: Amos
Date: 08 Apr 03 - 11:09 AM

The cape wasn't the engine of flight. It was an inexplicable combination of bigger-than-life muscles and lighter-than-air will power, I think. No-one ever explained it, and the thing was, as kids, we were the perfect audience -- totally willing to suspend disbelief for the sake of a good hero-figure.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: MMario
Date: 08 Apr 03 - 11:25 AM

The ability to fly was a result of the reaction of his kryptonian body to yellow sunlight

I always figured it was self-telekinesis.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 08 Apr 03 - 02:58 PM

Well, the cape may not be the actual engine of flight, but, if not, it also fooled Guy Clark.

From Guy's song "The Cape":

"Close your eyes, hold your breath, and always trust your cape."

But then, "Close your eyes, hold your breath, and always trust your inexplicable combination of bigger-than-life muscles and lighter-than-air will power", would be kinda rough on the meter and rhyme scheme, wouldn't it?

IMAGINE DUMB-ASS SMILEY-FACE THINGY (HERE).

Bruce


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: Grab
Date: 08 Apr 03 - 04:16 PM

Re Superman, the "leaps tall buildings in a single bound" thing is a bit wierd if the bloke can fly, isn't it? It's like saying "Hey, this 747 can jump across the Atlantic!"

Graham.

PS. Don't bother with the "Daredevil" movie - see here.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Up, up and away' ?????
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 08 Apr 03 - 04:34 PM

Spaw,

I must protest your continued insistence that Superman received an enema on any of his programs. It doesn't take much deep thinking to figure that this wasn't the case. That would have been the first broadcast version of such an event, making Superman Public Enema No. 1!

SRS

I'm not John Dwyer's daughter for nothin'!


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