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Subject: BS: Happy St. Patrick's Day.... From: The Pooka Date: 16 Mar 03 - 04:23 PM ...from me & all my fellow Plastic Paddys here on the cultural shores of Far Americay; a propos [that's gaelic right?) of which: Irish-Americans Prepare for the Reinforcin' o' the Stereotypes (That's Me in th' Pitcher, there.... :) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy St. Patrick's Day.... From: GUEST,sorefingers Date: 16 Mar 03 - 07:07 PM And the same plus three large brogues to yerself! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy St. Patrick's Day.... From: Rustic Rebel Date: 16 Mar 03 - 08:37 PM Kick up your heels and Erin-go-braless to ye all! Twill be o' fine eve and a full moon to boot. Peace. Rustic |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy St. Patrick's Day.... From: mg Date: 16 Mar 03 - 09:44 PM Happy St. Patrick's Day from Washington State. mg |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy St. Patrick's Day.... From: gnu Date: 17 Mar 03 - 05:03 AM Slainte Mahath from New Brunswick, Canada. There'll be more than a few steroytypes here tonight... the population of our province is around 35% Irish decendants. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy St. Patrick's Day.... From: Steve Latimer Date: 17 Mar 03 - 07:17 AM There's a move afoot here to make St. Patrick's Day a holiday (it is in Newfoundland). I'm in favour of the day after St. Patrick's Day being a holiday. I think that I'll be behaving myself tonight. Damn. Happy St. Patrick's Day all. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy St. Patrick's Day.... From: mooman Date: 17 Mar 03 - 08:39 AM And a Happy St Patrick's Day from the Irish here in Belgium where meself and An Pluimier Ceolmhar have just played a lunchtime set in the Irish Club in Brussels! Excellent soda bread and smoked salmon I must say! moo |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy St. Patrick's Day.... From: mooman Date: 17 Mar 03 - 08:42 AM Sorry ...An Pluimeir....must have been the Guinness! moo |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy St. Patrick's Day.... From: katlaughing Date: 17 Mar 03 - 09:37 AM Same to yourselves, one and all. Not much going on here, according to the newspapers and radio. Hmmmph...not even BBC America nor PBS had any Irish music shows; today BBC-America will show Father Ted re-runs as a salute to the day (Bleaghh!)and yesterday, the only thing Irish on the telly was the sad drama Rebel Heart and, yet again, Riverdance before, during, and after its initial performance in Ireland and New York. So, I'll get out my CDs and tapes and play my own Irish music, call my dad (a tradition on this day) and that's it. Hope you all have some good times! kat |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy St. Patrick's Day.... From: MMario Date: 17 Mar 03 - 09:42 AM Tejas Go Bragh! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy St. Patrick's Day.... From: InOBU Date: 17 Mar 03 - 10:27 AM From a flesh and blood Irishman, not at all a paddy, I have great hopes that the plastic paddies in uniform get so scuthered they forget what they are overseas for, and come home in search of asprin. I will make them the strong black coffee to welcome them home Is mise, le meas Lorcan |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy St. Patrick's Day.... From: Mrrzy Date: 17 Mar 03 - 10:53 AM I wish there were another term for this celebration of things and people Irish! Happy Shamrock Day, or something! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy St. Patrick's Day.... From: MMario Date: 17 Mar 03 - 10:57 AM Mrzzy - with all due respect - religion is a fact of life in this world; and whether for good or bad - how can one possibly consider things Irish honestly without considering religion? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy St. Patrick's Day.... From: Stilly River Sage Date: 17 Mar 03 - 11:06 AM Harking back to the original post, this is an American interpretation of an Irish (holy)day--and largely a misinterpretation. Probably by the American card companies as much as anyone. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy St. Patrick's Day.... From: The Shambles Date: 17 Mar 03 - 11:33 AM If you are in London, take a look. http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/yourlondon/stpatricks/lineup.shtml |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy St. Patrick's Day.... From: katlaughing Date: 17 Mar 03 - 11:33 AM Nobody seems to mind when it comes to celebrating and many of us have roots that go back there.:-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy St. Patrick's Day.... From: gnu Date: 17 Mar 03 - 11:45 AM Call it what you like but, in the US and in Canada, we Irish decendants see it as a celebration of our heritage. Yes, much is made of the drinking, but there's a lot more going on than that, from suppers to sessions to dances to poetry readings to history studies... you name it. As I mentioned above, there's a whack of us here in NB, and, of course, all over Atlantic Canada and beyond. I was particularly thrilled Saturday night watching "Gael Force", filmed in Ireland, on CBC TV. When the Chieftans were on, there were more Canucks than Chieftans on stage - Ashley McIssac, Jimmy Rankin, The Leheys. I couldn't help but marvel at the cross influences of the performers and the cultures. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy St. Patrick's Day.... From: Rustic Rebel Date: 17 Mar 03 - 04:58 PM Tonight, I will also raise a glass to our brothers and sisters, that are out and around the borders of Iraq. I will toast a safe and speedy return home. Peace. Rustic |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy St. Patrick's Day.... From: The Pooka Date: 17 Mar 03 - 05:49 PM An Irish-friendly Greek-American buddy to whom I emailed that page from The Onion (original post above) deadpanned the reply, 'I've read & re-read it over and over, and I just can't find the stereotype at all. Whatever do they mean?' :) But yeah, there's a lot more than green-beer-to-excess going on out here in the Diaspora. Why, tonight at the public library in the town next to mine there's a scholarly lecture on "Cu Chulainn: the Hound of Ulster". So a Happy St. Patrick's Day, in all that it means to each; and "Here's a health to one and all, to the big and to the small, to the rich and poor alike and foe and friend..." (from "Rambles of Spring" by the incomparable Dr. T. Makem:) -Plastic Pookie |
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Subject: Happy St.Patric's Day! From: Elena Date: 17 Mar 03 - 06:19 PM Happy St.Patrick's Day to you all! May Saint Patric every day Guide and help you on your way; May the land I dearly love Be protected from above! Elena. xx |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy St. Patrick's Day.... From: Devilmaster Date: 17 Mar 03 - 10:15 PM May the road rise to meet you. May the wind be always at your back May the sun shine warm upon your face The rain fall soft upon your fields And, until we meet again, May God hold you in the palm of his hand. Steve |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy St. Patrick's Day.... From: belfast Date: 18 Mar 03 - 08:50 AM Around here many of us refer to it as simply "Paddy's Day", thereby removing most of the religious connotation. And I survived with only the mildest of hangovers. On the subject of terminology, I must add that I really dislike that phrase "plastic paddy". Irish culture in all its forms is there for anyone who wants it and no one should be sneered at if they want a part of it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy St. Patrick's Day.... From: An Pluiméir Ceolmhar Date: 18 Mar 03 - 09:25 AM Greetings from le Plumier de ma tante. Patrick's Day really has become the festival of the diaspora, and it means more to me now, living abroad, than it did at home in the green and musty isle. Having survived the day itself in surprisingly good form, I'm off to the Irish Franciscan college in Louvain this evening, where the O Riada Mass will be celebrated by the very popular one-man surviving Franciscan community and sung by a choir which comes together each year and performs miraculously well with a minimum of rehearsal. The acoustics of the college chapel and the sense of the occasion both contribute to ensure that it will be more than "all right on the night". In addition to singing in the choir I'll be playing an air on the old plumbing. Unfortunately, due to dwindling numbers, the Irish province of the Franciscan order has just decided to withdraw from the college and hand it over to the State: so it will survive in some form or other as a piece of architectural heritage and in Irish hands, but it will no longer have the organic presence of the friars who were there since the dark days of the late 16th century. Mooman, myself and a few of the other regulars will be playing a few tunes to add atmosphere to the reception afterwards. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy St. Patrick's Day.... From: Penny S. Date: 18 Mar 03 - 05:42 PM One of the TV channels in England celebrated by showing a film based on the life of Patrick. A great deal of attention had been paid to the historical look of the thing, with the British inhabiting fading Roman cities, and in one case fading Roman armour, but there seemed to be two things going on which had little to do with the real man. There was some debate among both his followers and the Irish as to whether his "powers" were some Druidic trick he had learned or truly of God, but they looked like escapees from a film about Merlin. The other thing was about the relationship of his mission to the Church in Britain, which wanted him to be subservient to them, and to send his tithes to them. He appealed to Rome, to which the British did not seem to give the same respect, and gained his independent authority from the Pope. Now, I don't know the truth of this at all, but I don't remember reading it anywhere, including in a Celtic mystical trilogy about the conversion which would have included details like that if they were to be found. It did, however, seem to be about much more recent situations. So, it seemed to present Patrick as a wonder working Christian druid with a deep concern for the independence of Ireland. Where's the seeds of the Christian Ireland that reconverted Europe in that? Penny |