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'Songster & Saints' - the album?

outfidel 16 Feb 03 - 11:20 AM
outfidel 16 Feb 03 - 11:22 AM
Stewie 16 Feb 03 - 08:14 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 16 Feb 03 - 10:49 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 17 Feb 03 - 10:57 AM
masato sakurai 17 Feb 03 - 11:15 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 17 Feb 03 - 11:26 AM
outfidel 17 Feb 03 - 11:47 AM
masato sakurai 17 Feb 03 - 12:04 PM
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Subject: 'Songster & Saints' - the album?
From: outfidel
Date: 16 Feb 03 - 11:20 AM

A few days ago, I asked Mudcatters for reading material on pre-blues music and musicians. Several people recommended Paul Oliver's book, "Songsters & Saints: Vocal Traditions on Race Records".

In doing a little web surfing for the book, I found a CD on All-Music Guide by the same name (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=9:40:47|PM&sql=A7c8j1vjozzba).

Does the book come with the CD? If not, do folks here recommend the CD, and where is it available?


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Subject: RE: 'Songster & Saints' - the album?
From: outfidel
Date: 16 Feb 03 - 11:22 AM

Here's the AMG link to the album 'Songsters and Saints'


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Subject: RE: 'Songster & Saints' - the album?
From: Stewie
Date: 16 Feb 03 - 08:14 PM

No, there is no CD with the book. The album on your link relates to the first of 2 double-LP sets that were issued by Matchbox to complement the book. These were compiled and annotated by Paul Oliver. I wasn't aware that either had made it to CD - it must be a double CD to have 36 tracks. Each double-LP set had 36 tracks. It is odd that I cannot find reference to this CD elsewhere than where you have linked. I don't buy stuff online. If you find out where it is available, please let me know as I would certainly like to have these tracks on CD.

--Stewie.


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Subject: RE: 'Songster & Saints' - the album?
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 16 Feb 03 - 10:49 PM

Hi, Out.. Thanks for posting this thread. I just ordered the book used off Amazon.com. Neither Amazon.com or CDUniverses have the album. All Music Guide is what it says... a guide... not a source for purchase. They also write reviews on vinyl albums, so I don't know whether this has been released on CD.. if it has been, I'd like to know where to buy it.

Maybe I'll check eBay under records, and see if they have any copies..

I'll let you know if I run across anything..

Jerry


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Subject: RE: 'Songster & Saints' - the album?
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 17 Feb 03 - 10:57 AM

No used copies on vinyl on eBay.. This is going to be near impossible to find. I have a few of the tracks on other CDs or vinyl, but it looks like a great collection. I'd buy it just to get another track by Roosevelt Graves and Brother. I've only seen two of his songs re-issued anywhere..

Jerry


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Subject: RE: 'Songster & Saints' - the album?
From: masato sakurai
Date: 17 Feb 03 - 11:15 AM

Jerry, "Telephone to Glory" and others (21 songs in all) are on BLIND ROOSEVELT GRAVES 1929 - 1936 (Document DOCD-5105).

~Masato


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Subject: RE: 'Songster & Saints' - the album?
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 17 Feb 03 - 11:26 AM

Thank you, thank you, thank you, Masato!!!!! Hadn't run across that.
I'll order it right now...

Jerry


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Subject: RE: 'Songster & Saints' - the album?
From: outfidel
Date: 17 Feb 03 - 11:47 AM

Is Graves' "I Shall Not Be Moved" the same song Pop Staples recorded with Ry Cooder? I love that tune.


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Subject: RE: 'Songster & Saints' - the album?
From: masato sakurai
Date: 17 Feb 03 - 12:04 PM

I don't know the Pop Staples & Ry Cooder version. Graves' is the familiar tune often titled "We Shall Not Be Moved."

~Masato


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Subject: RE: 'Songster & Saints' - the album?
From: outfidel
Date: 17 Feb 03 - 12:08 PM

Pops version goes like this:

I shall not, I shall not be moved
I shall not, I shall not be moved
Just like a tree standing by the water
I shall not be moved

Jesus is my captain, I shall not be moved
Jesus is my captain, I shall not be moved
Just like a tree standing by the water
I shall not be moved

etc.

It's on Pops' "Peace to the Neighborhood" album.

Excellent resonator slide work by Cooder as the song picks up tempo.


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Subject: RE: 'Songster & Saints' - the album?
From: masato sakurai
Date: 17 Feb 03 - 12:22 PM

Probably the same song. All the sound clips for the Graves album are HERE.


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Subject: RE: 'Songster & Saints' - the album?
From: masato sakurai
Date: 17 Feb 03 - 11:10 PM

Oliver's other books with CDs are (Click here for info):

Conversations With The Blues, 2nd ed. (CD included)

Yonder Come The Blues, The Evolution of a Genre (companion CD with the same title is Document DOCD-32-20-1).


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