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Subject: Tune Req: Molly Stuart/It WasA'For OurRightfu'King From: GUEST,Kevin.A.Murphy@sff.net Date: 24 Jan 03 - 08:53 PM Has anyone encounted these songs? The second is a Robert Burns lyric which the note said is sung to the tune of the first. Here: http://www.worldburnsclub.com/poems/translations/it_was_a_for_our_rightfu_king.h Thanks, Kevin |
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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Molly Stuart/It WasA'For OurRightfu'King From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 24 Jan 03 - 09:35 PM Is it the tune that Burns used that you want? That can be arranged. The song Bonny Mally Stewart (spelled various ways) appeared on broadsides (no copies online that I can see), and a set from tradition (1905) appears in the Greig-Duncan Folk Song Collection (vol.I, 1981; no.97). |
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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Molly Stuart/It WasA'For OurRightfu'King From: GUEST,Julia Date: 24 Jan 03 - 09:42 PM Just a note on this song- I understand that the "rightfu' king" in this case is not Bonnie Prince Charlie, but his father. The words were actually made by a Captain Ogilvie who attended King James in exile and was a private soldier in the French service. He died at the Battle of the Rhine in 1695. Burns was responsible for putting the lyrics and the air together. I'm sorry that do not have the actual documentation of this- I scribbled it on my copy of the song and didn't write down the source. Maybe Miraculous Malcolm can corroborate this info Best- Julia |
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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Molly Stuart/It WasA'For OurRightfu'King From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 24 Jan 03 - 10:05 PM I'm afraid I don't know about that; I have only the short edition of Kinsley's Burns; so without the detailed notes (Masato may have the larger book and be able to help more). It certainly does seem that Burns modelled his song on the earlier one, though; the Greig set of Molly Stuart (however you care to spell it) contains a verse very close to one of Burns'. Molly, assuming the one set I've seen is typical, is one of those songs in which the heroine dresses as a man in order to follow her lover to war; which appears to be in Germany in this case, though Ireland turns up as well for some reason. |
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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Molly Stuart/It WasA'For OurRightfu'King From: Jim McLean Date: 25 Jan 03 - 10:57 AM A quote from William Stenhouse in Johnson's Musical Museum: "This is another production of Burns, in allusion to [The royal family of Stuart] and the unfortunate fate of many of its adherents. The beautiful air to which his verses are adapted, consisting of one strain, was also communicated by the bard. Mr Hogg had been informed by some person, who thought this an old song, that it was written by a Captain Ogilvie, who was with King James at the battle of the Boyne, and was afterwards killed on the banks of the Rhine in 1695". Jim McLean |
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Subject: Lyr/Tune Add: IT WAS A' FOR OUR RIGHTFU' KING From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 25 Jan 03 - 12:34 PM I haven't seen the Stenhouse edition, but the story seems reasonable enough; though of course it may be apocryphal. Bonny Mally Stewart appeared in chapbook(s) rather than broadsides as I said earlier. IT WAS A' FOR OUR RIGHTFU' KING (Words by Robert Burns; tune traditional) It was a' for our rightfu' king We left fair Scotland's strand; It was a' for our rightfu' king, We e'er saw Irish land my dear, We e'er saw Irish land. Now a' is done that men can do, And a' is done in vain: My love and Native Land fareweel, For I maun cross the main, my dear, For I maun cross the main. He turn'd him right and round about, Upon the Irish shore, And gae his bridle-reins a shake, With, adieu for evermore, my dear, With adieu for evermore. The soger frae the wars returns, The sailor frae the main, But I hae parted frae my Love, Never to meet again, my dear, Never to meet again. When day is gane, and night is come, And a' folk bound to sleep; I think on him that's far awa, The lee-lang night and weep, my dear, The lee-lang night and weep. From Johnson's Scots Musical Museum, vol.V no.497. X:1 T:It Was a' for our Rightfu' King C:Words by Robert Burns, tune trad. B:Scots Musical Museum, vol.V no.497. N:Roud 5789 L:1/8 Q:1/4=100 M:4/4 K:D AG|F2 (EF) D2 (AG)|F2 EF D3 A| w:It_ was a'_ for our_ right-fu'_ king We B2 (B3/2d/) B2 (AF)|A6 B2| w:left fair_ Scot-land's_ strand; It (A3/2B/) (d3/2e/) {de}f2 f2|(e3/2d/) (e3/2f/) A2 (d3/2e/)| w:was_ a'_ for our right-*fu'_ king, We_ {de}f2 F2 (GF) (ED)|F3 A B2 (de)| w:e'er saw I-*rish_ land my dear, We_ {de}f2 F2 (GF) (EF)|D6|] w:e'er saw I-*rish_ land. |
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