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Subject: Tune Req: Classical Mandolin Piece for Beginner From: Áine Date: 21 Jan 03 - 01:21 PM Greetings Fellow Mandolinquents! Not that I've become bored with all the wonderful jigs, reels and hornpipes I've been learning; but, I've been listening to some wonderful classical mandolin players on a CD I received for Christmas . . . and well, you all know how it goes . . . I thought I'd give the genre a 'go' as it were. *BG* So, do anyone of you fantastically knowledgeable Mudcat Mando-idiots know any relatively simple classical pieces that I could introduce my fingers to? And if you could point me to the notes and/or tablature for mandolin, that would be a great big help as well. Thanks in advance, Áine |
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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Classical Mandolin Piece for Beginner From: JohnInKansas Date: 22 Jan 03 - 03:42 AM Áine- I've been wondering about the same sort of thing, but haven't made much progress in finding anything. (Actually, I haven't really made that much of a serious effort – yet.) A particular recent inspiration for me has been the CD Traversata: Italian music in America with David Grisman, Beppe Gametta, and Carlo Aonzo (ACD-47, Acoustic Disk, San Rafael CA); but I think I need to grow at least 12 more fingers before I can try to take much from the recording. Beppe has been at several recent Winfield Acoustic Music Festivals here, and Carlo has been there with him the last couple of years. Beppe has produced "dot books" to go with a couple of his recordings, and I've hoped that maybe Carlo has or would do the same, with a little encouragement. Unfortunately the next opportunity to bug them directly won't come up until next September. A cursory web search hasn't turned up much. CD liner notes for the above CD site "source performers," but give little indication of there being written music for most of the numbers. There is mention of a couple of pieces being "arranged by Carlo," and my guess is that much of it is not scored, but is taken "by ear" from recordings. There is mention of manuscript and a "sheet music edition" of L'Onda (The Wave), by Pasquale Taraffo (1887-1937), scored for his "special" 14-string harp guitar in all probability. They also mention Raffaele Calace (1863-1934) as having "revolutionized mandolin literature with virtuosic pieces for solo manolin … and mandolin orchestra," – implying that there are/were written scores; but noone in my neighborhood seems to have heard of him. A Rudy Cipolla (1900 – 2000) is referred to as a prolific manuscript writer and "the "godfather" of the San Francisco mandolin scene for many years." Something of his might be available, but I haven't found it. His business was "The Book Nook" in San Francisco, so maybe one of our buddies out there will stop in and see if he left anything laying around on the floor. For the present, I use a lot of tremolo on "Love Me Tender" and announce with the original German name translated into French (when I can remember how I made that up). [Incidentally, it doesn't really impress a soul.] John |
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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Classical Mandolin Piece for Beginner From: GUEST Date: 22 Jan 03 - 03:51 AM Try 'Jesu, Joy of Man's Desire'. It's pretty easily transfered to mando when played in the key of 'G'. |
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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Classical Mandolin Piece for Beginner From: GUEST Date: 22 Jan 03 - 05:06 AM Jesu Joy Tab |
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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Classical Mandolin Piece for Beginner From: GUEST,mandomaniac Date: 22 Jan 03 - 10:07 AM You, also may try the Mandolin Cafe website as there is a whole section devoted to classical mandolin. There's a forum, practical tips, classified section. All in all a great site for any mando(and all it's larger cousins)player. |
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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Classical Mandolin Piece for Beginner From: Mooh Date: 22 Jan 03 - 11:27 AM Aine, The Real Little Classical Fake Book with over 600 classical themes and melodies in their original keys is quite helpful. Though printed quite small for my eyes, I have blown up pieces I want for myself in a photocopier. Pieces I've used for my students get the handwritten tab/standard notation treatment if tab is required. Hal Leonard Publishing Co. ISBN 0-7935-1668-4 US price is marked $19.95, but I forget what I paid in Cdn dollars. PM me if there's anything specific you'd like. Also on my shelf is My First Book of Classical Music with 29 themes (www.doverpublications.com) ISBN 0-486-41092-7. Peace and good luck, Mooh. |
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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Classical Mandolin Piece for Beginne From: GUEST,Frank Hamilton Date: 22 Jan 03 - 12:32 PM Schubert's Serenade is a good one. ;:You might explore some folk songs from European sources. They would be good as well. Italian and Neopolitan songs, (some are classical and have been used by composers such as Smetana, Tschaikovsky and Bartok. Beethoven melodies such as the 9th Symphony with the chorale, March Slav (for example set by Tschaikovsky) and if you are ambitious, there is a two part book of Paganini duets for violin and guitar that would be adaptable to mandolin. You might investigate to see if there is a mandolin orchestra in your part of the country. We have one here in Atlanta. Frank |
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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Classical Mandolin Piece for Beginner From: Mooh Date: 23 Jan 03 - 08:09 AM Being both a guitarist and a fan of J.S.Bach I've found guitar arrangements which work well for mandolin, like the Bourree in E minor, Sleepers Wake, and so on. Some such things are sometimes to be found in hymn books too. Simon Mayor's introductory mandolin instruction book has a Handel bourree and a Beethoven piece, not to mention being the best starter book I've encountered. Peace, Mooh. |
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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Classical Mandolin Piece for Beginner From: Áine Date: 23 Jan 03 - 02:58 PM Dear Fellow Mandolinquents, Thank you so much for all your responses. I've gone and retrieved the Jesu tab, and I'm giving it a go. I wish our 'Guest' had signed their name so I could thank them personally; because that's a very good site for mando tab he/she gave us. And mandomaniac -- I'm a great fan of the Mandolin Cafe -- especially since the Mudcat is well represented there by our own Aidan Crossey (f/k/a derrymacash), who's contributed so many of the tabs available there. I did take a gander at the 'early airs/classical' section there, but I couldn't figure out the tab markings in most of the classical pieces (purely my failing, I'm sure, and not that of any of the contributors). And Frank -- Great idea on the European folk songs! I'd love to learn some of those. Any idea where I could find some tablature? And I wish we had a mandolin orchestra here in the Dallas/Fort Worth area -- Would you believe that I have hunted high and low for just a mandolin teacher in these parts and have come up empty-handed?!? And dear Mooh -- PM is a comin' your direction, darlin'! ;-) BTW - the CD I've been listening to is Music for Mandolin by Barbella, Beethoven, Mozart, Hummel and Calace, with Alison Stephens, Sue Mossop on mandolins; Poppy Holden, soprano; and Richard Burnett on piano. Great stuff! All the best, Áine |
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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Classical Mandolin Piece for Beginner From: Áine Date: 24 Jan 03 - 10:04 AM Good Mornin' Mando-idiots! I did some more searching last night, and I found a few books of classical music at Elderly Instruments. I also found this book, MAGIC MANDOLIN: 30 FOLK SONGS AND MELODIES FROM AROUND THE WORLD by Jozef Scales, which I ordered, and thanks again to Frank Hamilton for his timely suggestion about exploring European folk songs. ;-) Thanks again for all your help, Mando-Cats -- you all are the best! -- Áine |
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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Classical Mandolin Piece for Beginner From: Áine Date: 24 Jan 03 - 10:14 AM Hey Mooh, Is this book the one by Simon Mayor you mentioned in your post above? If it is, then I'll definitely get that one, too. Thanks for the headsup on it! All the best, Áine |
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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Classical Mandolin Piece for Beginner From: Alice Date: 24 Jan 03 - 11:08 AM I've heard, via a performance of the local Montana Mandolin Society, that one of the pieces that mandolin students are given is Mozart's serenade from Don Giovanni. http://www.mandolinsheetmusic.com/ |
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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Classical Mandolin Piece for Beginner From: Alice Date: 24 Jan 03 - 11:12 AM The page for ordering classical music for mandolin: http://www.mandolinsheetmusic.com/classical.dsp |
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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Classical Mandolin Piece for Beginner From: Áine Date: 24 Jan 03 - 11:30 AM Thanks Alice!! More goodies to glean through ;-) This is a great sheet music resource, and I've bookmarked it for future reference. You're a gem. All the best, Áine |
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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Classical Mandolin Piece for Beginner From: Mooh Date: 24 Jan 03 - 11:37 PM Alice...Cool link! Thanks. Aine...Yup, that's the one. Got mine autographed by the author, heck of a nice guy! Mooh. |
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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Classical Mandolin Piece for Beginner From: JohnInKansas Date: 17 Nov 05 - 10:23 PM I found that I'd traced this thread quite a while back, and decided to make another try at finding something. Oh Mio Babbino Caro is a transcription from CD: "This aria, which translates as Oh, My Dear Daddy, is from Puccini's one-act opera Gianni Schicci, first staged in 1918. This arrangement is based upon Italian mandolinist Carlo Aonzo's rendering of it on the CD Traversata (Acoustic Disc ACD-47, 2001). It is tremoloed throughout." You'll also find a link at the above page to a harmony part by the same transcriber. Simple melody lines, with chords noted for both parts, with mando tab for the melody and accompaniment. It's getting the tremolo on all of the notes that's tough – for me, anyway. (Note that if you try to copy the "picture" of the piece, it's two separate .gif images on each page, so copy once from the top and again near the bottom to get both pieces.) Carlo Aonzo is the guy who plays it on the CD, with Beppe Gambetta – both great guys and great players. Web references to a Fillipo Gambetta that come up in a search for Carlo I think are to Beppe's dad or uncle – not sure about that, but he has a reputation too. Ambitious mando nuts might find also find the Carlo Aonzo Family Scales interesting. I find lots of stuff that says that "classical mando" pieces are "easily available," but my searches bring up only stuff about musicians, concert dates, and CDs. Printed music (and tab) is out there, but Google apparently doesn't know where it is. John |
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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Classical Mandolin Piece for Beginner From: Kaleea Date: 18 Nov 05 - 12:27 AM Carlo "The Maestro" Aonzo is an amazing Musician, classically trained, and thoroughly babtised into Bluegrass by Beppe. Fillipo is Beppe's son, and a fine Musician in his own right. I haven't seen him since 2000 at the Walnut Valley Music Festival. 9-11 took place during festival in 2001, and since all commercial planes were grounded world wide, Beppe was quite worried about his then young teenaged son who was grounded in Nova Scotia-I think-& it took alot of phone calls by some very persistent people in Winfield, Kansas, for Beppe to finally get hold of his son. Despite all this, Beppe & Carlo performed extra sets to help make up for the fact that several of the performers could not get there or were delayed that year. They even performed an Opera of the Bluegrass persuasion that year. |
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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Classical Mandolin Piece for Beginner From: JohnInKansas Date: 18 Nov 05 - 01:26 AM Beppe is one of the few "name" performers who's apparently come to WVA even when he wasn't performing, and he's made some pleasant (for us at least) visits out in the campground to meet and play a bit with those of us with lesser talent (or none at all). I just wish Carlo would publish some dots like has been done for a few of Beppe's CD pieces. I found old web notes indicating that Carlo has done some workshops "back east" US, and one indicating a planned "2006" workshop, but the note I found didn't say when or where. John |
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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Classical Mandolin Piece for Beginner From: GUEST,Fullerton Date: 18 Nov 05 - 04:44 PM I have done a few Mandolin tab arrangements for my pupils inc...... One of the movements from Vivaldi's Concerto for 2 mandolins ( Both Mnd parts are shown in tab and regular dots ) Its in nice large print too. Beethoven wrote a few pieces for Mnd. I have got one of them. And quite a few others inc. Santa Lucia. and yeah of got the god father too. Any one got the sheet music for the Hummel concerto? Do you want copies? I teach Mandolin and I've got vacancies! But its a long way from there to here. Fullerton |
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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Classical Mandolin Piece for Beginner From: JohnInKansas Date: 18 Nov 05 - 08:00 PM Guest Fullerton My interest in playing classical mandolin is pretty casual. There's all that hard work involved, and I don't have a handy accomplice for duets. My immediate interest is in why people keep saying "there's lots of it" when I can't seem to find where it's hidden. My current classical music holdings are limited to a couple of fake books and a very few pieces of isolated sheet music, and I could of course make up my own arrangements; but it would seem there should be better web visibility on music that has been "traditionally" written or adapted specifically for manolin. It's a "where's the history hidden" sort of thing. Others have expressed interest in getting pieces to play, which was my main reason for the link to Carlo's piece. John |
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