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mmm1a 03 Nov 02 - 07:31 PM
open mike 03 Nov 02 - 09:49 PM
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Alice 03 Nov 02 - 10:12 PM
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Ebbie 04 Nov 02 - 01:19 AM
Don Firth 04 Nov 02 - 03:35 PM
GUEST,Taliesn 04 Nov 02 - 06:12 PM
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Subject: BS: Earthquakes
From: mmm1a
Date: 03 Nov 02 - 07:31 PM

Just heard about an earthquake in Alaska , registered at 7.9 and also small ones in the plains ( Nebraska area ?). Is it me or does it seem that there are a lot of quakes in the last week or so. This is one of the biggest reasons I don't live in Calif. anymore.
            mmm


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Subject: RE: BS: Earthquakes
From: open mike
Date: 03 Nov 02 - 09:49 PM

the one in Nebraska was felt in 3 adjoining states.
the USGS web site has up to the minute seismograph
reports..there have been quite a few in the area
near Eureka/Arcata/Petrolia on the west coast of CA
near the Oregon border, and also some activity in the
mammoth lakes area in Eastern CA.


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Subject: RE: BS: Earthquakes
From: momnopp
Date: 03 Nov 02 - 10:06 PM

If you click here there's a list of the most recent ones. Amazing stuff! McKinley Park, AK 7.9!!!!!!

Peace,

JudyO


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Subject: RE: BS: Earthquakes
From: Alice
Date: 03 Nov 02 - 10:12 PM

From the USGS web site
McKinley Park, Alaska, Nov 3, magnitude 7.9
Northern Sumatra, Indonesia, Nov 1, magnitude 7.5

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/


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Subject: RE: BS: Earthquakes
From: Alice
Date: 03 Nov 02 - 10:19 PM

simultaneous searching and pasting and posting with Judy...

here is a world map of all earthquakes in the year 2002
that are magnitude 7 or greater:

Click here
http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/bulletin/mag7.html


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Subject: RE: BS: Earthquakes
From: Ebbie
Date: 04 Nov 02 - 01:19 AM

They're telling us that the 7.9 quake was felt as far south as New Orleans! And yet, some folks here in Juneau didn't feel it at all. Juneau is about 400 miles south of Fairbanks by land, I think, and closer than that to the epicenter.

I felt just one quick jolt here at the computer. I was on the phone at that moment and my wheeled office chair did a quick sideways dip. A friend of mine, however, about 10 miles from where I am felt it quite distinctly and had enough time to go downstairs and outdoors. They say it lasted 30 seconds or so. Another friend, about 6 miles from me (meaning she was only 4 miles from the other friend) felt nothing at all.

The ocean water around these islands sloshed a lot and the boats in the harbor rocked wildly, but there was no tsunami. Most of that area of Alaska where the quake centered is very sparsely settled. At this point they are saying the only reported injury was of a 76-year-old woman breaking her arm in a fall on the stairs. If a quake of that magnitude happened in Seattle or the San Franscisco area there would be a lot more damage.


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Subject: RE: BS: Earthquakes
From: Don Firth
Date: 04 Nov 02 - 03:35 PM

Big surprise when Barbara and I got home last night and turned on the late news.

We had driven up to Everett from Seattle, and we were just arriving at Bob Nelson's house at about 2:13 p.m. our time. We didn't notice a thing. When we got back to Seattle, the news informed us of the Alaska quake and said that the houseboats on Lake Union (just north of downtown Seattle) and Portage Bay (an arm of Lake Union just south of the University of Washington campus) had had one helluva ride. Piers running out between the houseboats writhing like snakes and houseboats rocking back and forth, with a few collisions, some water pipes and electrical cables were broken loose, and a few people got knocked around a bit. I haven't heard of any injuries, though. A few people in taller buildings said it felt like the Nisqually quake (magnitude 6.8, 10:54 a.m. on February 28, 2001) all over again. And Seattle is about 1,400 miles from the epicenter. As the news reports said, bodies of water in Louisiana (Lake Pontchartrain) and Kentucky did a similar dance. This was because of seismic waves rippling out from the Alaska quake. There was a similar sloshing back and forth of water in Lake Union accompanying the 1964 Alaska quake, magnitude 9.2.

Very close in time yesterday there were several other earthquakes. One reported in Nebraska (my wife is originally from there and said that's very rare) and a number of others reported around the country, including a 3.2 quake near Mount Vernon, a small city about eighty miles north of Seattle.

The tectonic plates are in contact—some in very firm contact and under extreme stress, ready to break loose at almost any time. It appears to me that if one is agitated, it can't help but agitate the others. Yet the news reports keep saying that these earthquakes were not related. I don't buy that. How can they not be related? Can anyone up on geology enlighten me on this?

Methinks terra firma ain't so firma after all. Welcome to Planet Earth.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Earthquakes
From: GUEST,Taliesn
Date: 04 Nov 02 - 06:12 PM

Well I must thank for the provision of the USGS survey links. Began revisiting this subject of "world changes" predicted by Edgar Cayce when Mt. Aetna fired up again "in spades" last week. Then comes this Alaskan quake at 7.9 which ain't no lil' squeaker by a long shot. This called to mind thew devastating earthquake that hit the Alaskan areas back in the late 60's or early 70's that made the cover of National Geographic.

Well you can now throw in the shutdown of the Alaskan pipeleine and the flow of oil as the most far-reaching reverberation considering what a Republican-ruled Congress has advocated as their solution to dependency upon "foreign oil"; namely first pumping more Fed *tax* dollars to subsidiize exploring and and extracting on a gamble that there would be more than 6 months supply for all the investment.

Well where there is one earthquake of that magnitude one can plan for others and this issue will ever be presented on the floor of the Senate should it go Republican and become a machine congress for this Oil-soaked , some would say "stained" , administration. ( Can't wait to hear of Enron's Fastow's deal to sing like a birdie fingering Skilling and Bush jr's good ol buddy Kenny Boy with whom Dubya became so damn chummy while he was Governor of Texas.

We all say what a disaster it was when Clinton was won the white house with an *all* Democrat Congress. I'm even *more* distrustful of an *all* Republican congress behind this "Economically challenged" admin with its head up it's Iraq.
If this happens get ready for a replay of astonomical federal debt financing with the 21st century Military Industrial Complex firsat at the hogtrough and the subsequent raising of fed interest rates that will inevitably occur because the fed is totally dependent upon Fed debt to finance any war effort and no one , including foreign investors , will buy T-notes at such low interest rates.
all that would be left is printing more money and that always leads to *inflation*.

Wait for it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Earthquakes
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 04 Nov 02 - 07:38 PM

Musical thread drift - I was wondering about earthquake disaster songs. I checked in the DT, and there are a handful of songs which mention a quake in passing, but that's not what I mean.

Anybody come across any song with the events of an earthquake as the central thing?

Maybe the thing is that the really devastating earthquakes in recent years have tended to happen in non-English speaking countries, and we tend to be very backward in picking up songs which aren't written in English.

What set me thinking about this was the heartbreaking story of those Italian children at their Halloween Party.


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Subject: RE: BS: Earthquakes
From: Deckman
Date: 04 Nov 02 - 08:30 PM

Hey Don ... I just heard that the Wishkah River, In Aberdeen, had a one mile section of river that started running backward during that quake yesterday! It was either the quake, or perhaps some left over vibes from some hoot at Dick's house. Or maybe ... it was those damned Albertson's buyer cards! CHEERS, Bob


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Subject: RE: BS: Earthquakes
From: Wolfgang
Date: 05 Nov 02 - 04:23 AM

May I mention 'Tennessee Earthquake' by Jerry Rasmussen?

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: BS: Earthquakes
From: Wolfgang
Date: 05 Nov 02 - 04:31 AM

It seems to be true that most earthquake songs are in other languages. In Japan, Azenbo Soeda has published "New Popular Songs, Great Earthquake Songs"

One example is here.

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: BS: Earthquakes
From: katlaughing
Date: 05 Nov 02 - 06:05 AM

My neice lives near Fairbanks. She called my sister right after this one happened. They were out shopping at and visiting the "North Pole" (Santa's workshop and all) and all had time to get outside. There was no damage at all that they heard of; my sister asked her 6 year old grandson if it was scary and he said "No."

They had one that was 6.something a couple of weeks ago, in the middle of the night, which woke her up. She took her son downstairs and stood under a doorway. He's a good sleeper; he didn't even remember it. That time she said the house kind of rolled a bit and the bath towels waved at her as she walked by.

The good thing is, at the Air Force base, at least, is they have strict guidelines for construction of buildings so that most are built to kind of go with the "flow" and not suffer damage as older places did in the past or even like the school in Italy.

My brother has written about his controversial, but well-researched, theory that we might use music to heal the faults and prevent earthquakes. He is writing a more expanded version of his small booklet, Earthquake Prevention Through MetaMusic©, about this. I won't post much here because I do not want to get into any kind of debates about it, but if anyone is interested they could send me a PM.

One of the things he did find in his research is that much of our country, including the Boston area and Yellowstone, are long overdue for earthquakes of devastating proportions, based on solid geological history/evidence.

kat


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Subject: RE: BS: Earthquakes
From: Wolfgang
Date: 05 Nov 02 - 06:50 AM

Delton Hudson is a music composer and author of a book entitled "Earthquake Prevention Through MetaMusic." In his book, Mr. Hudson discusses the direct effects that different types of music can have on the planet, particularly on the very faultlines where earthquakes occur. He is said to have proven, through actual scientific application, that rock stress can be affected by musical tones and has proposed that "Quake-Prevention Temples" be built along fault zones. These temples would house trained personnel who would be responsible for producing "correct tones" for harmonizing the earth's rock foundation. Mr. Hudson has a master's degree in theory composition. He composes full symphonic scores of tonal music from his mind directly onto the music paper without use of any instrument; just as Mozart was portrayed doing in the film "Amadeus." He is available to discuss the metaphysical benefits of music on our health, our pets and our world. Del Hudson is a full member of the American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers (ASCAP). He is also a member of the Rosicrucian Order, a metaphysical fraternity.

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: BS: Earthquakes
From: TIA
Date: 05 Nov 02 - 08:49 AM

To Don Firth -- I'm a geophysicist, and here's the scoop. The recent distant quakes (Alasaka, Nebraska, Indonesia, etc.) aren't related. The plates are all in contact, but they're not rigid. Stress on one edge doesn't transmit directly across the plate to another edge -- imagine trying to push a rug across the floor...the edge you push will wrinkle before the whole rug slides. So, although your intuition that temporally coincident quakes must be related is sensible, your final line that terra firma ain't so firma is the key! Also, quakes of this size (Alaska) are way more common than you'd think, they just get press when they hit the US, and when one quake gets reported, all the little ones (e.g. 3.2) that happen every day also get reported, so if you read the papers it seems like a cluster. But it's not.

Follow-up to Kat: Right on about Yellowstone. But, Boston's hazard is nothing compared to the little publicized, but significant hazards in New Madrid, Missouri (and Charleston, South Carolina). the map that sums up earthquake hazard in the US is at http://geohazards.cr.usgs.gov/eq/

Wherever you live, your odds of being injured in a car crash are far higher than being injured in an earthquake, so don't fret...keep singin'.

Tim


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Subject: RE: BS: Earthquakes
From: katlaughing
Date: 05 Nov 02 - 09:57 AM

Thanks, Tim!

Thanks, Wolfgang (I think**bg**).


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Subject: RE: BS: Earthquakes
From: Don Firth
Date: 05 Nov 02 - 05:00 PM

That makes sense. Thanks for the info, Tim.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Earthquakes
From: Deckman
Date: 06 Nov 02 - 03:38 AM

Don ... I still think it has a lot to do with those stupid shopper cards. Do remember just a few months ago when QFC started pushing their cards ... with all the resulting shopper angst. And then just this last week, along comes Albertsons and starts the same push with the resulting buyer anger. Maybe all this anger just goes down into the ground and boils up somewhere else? You mark my words now, because I'm hearing that Fred Meyer is going to start issuing cards soon. CHEERS, Bob


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