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Subject: BS: SADDAM HAS ULTIMATE WEAPON !!! From: Donuel Date: 18 Sep 02 - 05:22 PM [image] http://www.angelfire.com/md2/customviolins/onion.jpg [/image] |
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Subject: RE: SADDAM HAS ULTIMATE WEAPON !!! From: Bee-dubya-ell Date: 18 Sep 02 - 05:40 PM Try this. |
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Subject: RE: SADDAM HAS ULTIMATE WEAPON !!! From: Sorcha Date: 18 Sep 02 - 06:14 PM OMG.............as Jed Marum says, "One born every minute." |
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Subject: RE: SADDAM HAS ULTIMATE WEAPON !!! From: Amos Date: 18 Sep 02 - 06:25 PM Actual photos of the research centers thought to be indicating renewed nuclear weapons in development can be found at this site. I have no expertise to judge what concluusions should be drawn from them. A |
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Subject: RE: SADDAM HAS ULTIMATE WEAPON !!! From: Amos Date: 18 Sep 02 - 06:26 PM The following description is of interest: New imagery from DigitalGlobe taken on 18 August, 2002, shows evidence of new construction under way at Tuwaitha. Two unidentified structures 12,000 and 16,800 square feet in size are being built. While not intrinsically sinister, the construction raises more questions than answers. Why would the Iraqis undertake new construction at a facility known by the U.S. Intelligence Community, UNSCOM, and the IAEA to be associated with a clandestine nuclear program? A |
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Subject: RE: SADDAM HAS ULTIMATE WEAPON !!! From: Peter T. Date: 18 Sep 02 - 06:30 PM To take the piss out of George W. yours, Peter T. |
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Subject: RE: SADDAM HAS ULTIMATE WEAPON !!! From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 18 Sep 02 - 07:15 PM Well it's no big deal now to have some knowledgeable people go out and have a look at it. I can't see Saddam successfully sticking a camouflage net over something that size.
As for the little laboratory in the back room of a private house or whatever, true enough, that'd be harder to spot. But if I was Saddam and wanted to be setting up a biological weapons plant, I'd probably rent a room in some small New England town, the sort of place Stephen King books are set, and I'd do it there. Much less likely to get interrupted by arms inspectors I'd imagine. |
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Subject: RE: SADDAM HAS ULTIMATE WEAPON !!! From: DougR Date: 18 Sep 02 - 07:52 PM Yes, Kevin, I think that's what worries Tom Ridge and Company. DougR |
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Subject: RE: SADDAM HAS ULTIMATE WEAPON !!! From: CraigS Date: 18 Sep 02 - 08:32 PM It's all doublethink and triplethink and more. The western powers are aware of the possibilities of the Iraqis setting up facilities through innocent third parties in western countries. The Iraqis have for years been putting forward propositions for tenders into the western commercial markets that suggest that they are gearing up for biowarfare. To suggest that they are in the process of openly erecting facilities for aggression is to swallow another red herring. Remember those decoy tanks in WW II. All the same, Saddam almost got the gun that would strike Jerusalem out of the British (for those who do not remember, the Iraqis got a long range gun fabricated in Britain. The barrel was so long that the company that made it thought it was a special oil pipe, and it almost got through to Iraq but got stopped in transit). I'd suggest that the Iraqi biowarfare effort is probably located in a hotel water plant in Tunisia. The atomic weapons program will be found wherever there is a concentration of Ukranian and Georgian scientists in Africa - anywhere that the government does not have the means to monitor what is going on. Don't assume that Mr Saddam is THE major threat to the west, either - the Iranis, Libyans and Syrians are only seen as friendly because they haven't stopped smiling yet. El Saddam is simply the biggest noise-maker - and that is probably just a distraction. |
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Subject: RE: SADDAM HAS ULTIMATE WEAPON !!! From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 18 Sep 02 - 09:00 PM And is there any reason at all to think that wiping out Saddam's regime in Iraq would do anything at all significantly to reduce those kinds of dangers?
I think concentrating on the asteroid threat would be a much better way to divert people's attention from domestic issues. |
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Subject: RE: SADDAM HAS ULTIMATE WEAPON !!! From: DougR Date: 19 Sep 02 - 12:42 AM Kevin: I sure hope you have a very deep bomb shelter. By my calculation, Saddam is much closer to Great Britain than he is Arizona. :>) DougR |
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Subject: RE: SADDAM HAS ULTIMATE WEAPON !!! From: Liz the Squeak Date: 19 Sep 02 - 01:48 AM And there was me thinking the ultimate weapon against us would be Dubya on our side....... LTS |
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Subject: RE: SADDAM HAS ULTIMATE WEAPON !!! From: GUEST,Boab Date: 19 Sep 02 - 02:40 AM Aye, Doug r.---had it not been for Milk-snatcher Thatcher and her protege, Bushietail Blair my kids in Scotland living within ten miles of a Nuke station wouldn't have to concern themselves about "terrorists" and all the Brits could settle back and wait till a REAL threat came upbefore they started digging those "deep shelters". And Amos's photos had better not be shelters for Iraqi women and kids, or dried milk factories, or wedding centres etc.. They have been shown to be much more vulnerable places in recent "wars". Boab |
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Subject: RE: SADDAM HAS ULTIMATE WEAPON !!! From: DougR Date: 19 Sep 02 - 03:22 AM True, Boab, true. DougR |
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Subject: RE: SADDAM HAS ULTIMATE WEAPON !!! From: Donuel Date: 19 Sep 02 - 07:12 AM (my revised article) |
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Subject: RE: SADDAM HAS ULTIMATE WEAPON !!! From: Donuel Date: 19 Sep 02 - 07:16 AM I am blue slicky challenged-never got it right in 2 years. http://www.angelfire.com/md2/customviolins/onion.jpg |
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Subject: RE: SADDAM HAS ULTIMATE WEAPON !!! From: GUEST,Rob Date: 19 Sep 02 - 07:38 AM As long as he does not have a massed band of accordianists we should be OK |
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Subject: RE: SADDAM HAS ULTIMATE WEAPON !!! From: Teribus Date: 19 Sep 02 - 10:30 AM Amos,
One answer to the question posed in the article you posted above:
"Why would the Iraqis undertake new construction at a facility known by the U.S. Intelligence Community, UNSCOM, and the IAEA to be associated with a clandestine nuclear program?" Because on the 18th August, 2002, there had been no UN weapons inpectors in Iraq for nearly two and a half years and that time Saddam Hussein had no intention of letting them return - maybe?
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Subject: RE: SADDAM HAS ULTIMATE WEAPON !!! From: GUEST,me, of course... Date: 19 Sep 02 - 11:30 AM Rob - There is a massed band of kazoo players in San Francisco that could stand them off, so don't be so worried about it. America always has an answer to diabolical foreign threats. |
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Subject: RE: SADDAM HAS ULTIMATE WEAPON !!! From: GUEST,George. W. Date: 19 Sep 02 - 11:54 AM We will progress are intentiation to demasdistructify I'raq. Site inspectorisation is insufficient to stand-downarize our capability. G.W. |
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Subject: RE: SADDAM HAS ULTIMATE WEAPON !!! From: Donuel Date: 19 Sep 02 - 12:01 PM Dear George W. Congratulations on your new honor http://www.angelfire.com/md2/customviolins/onion2.jpg |
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Subject: RE: SADDAM HAS ULTIMATE WEAPON !!! From: Donuel Date: 19 Sep 02 - 12:08 PM click here |
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Subject: RE: SADDAM HAS ULTIMATE WEAPON !!! From: Trevor Date: 19 Sep 02 - 12:21 PM God, for a minute there I thought he'd got a banjo.... |
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Subject: RE: SADDAM HAS ULTIMATE WEAPON !!! From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 19 Sep 02 - 12:37 PM We've been in easy range of people pointing nuclear weapons at us all my adult life, Doug. And before that we were having actual air-raids and so forth.
Saddam Hussein does not seem like a serious threat, I'm afraid. And the tougher Bush talks, the less I believe he thinks he's a threat either. Not so much a threat, more an opportunity. It was you that said it was all about getting hold of the oil Doug. I wouldn't venture to contradict you on that.
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Subject: RE: SADDAM HAS ULTIMATE WEAPON !!! From: DougR Date: 19 Sep 02 - 07:34 PM I don't recall saying it was "all" about the oil, McGrath. I do recall saying that it was a factor. However, since you bring the subject up, do you really believe Bush is doing this to help his oil friends? DougR |
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Subject: RE: SADDAM HAS ULTIMATE WEAPON !!! From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 19 Sep 02 - 08:03 PM I think there are probably other factors involved as well, such as domestic electoral considerations, and maybe a wish to show people who's boss.
Does Bush really think there is imminent danger from Iraq that makes it essential that America goes to war? You'd need to know the man far better than any of us can know him to have the answer to that. Maybe he does. If he does think that, I think he's probably wrong. And I think that some of his advisors who say that probably do not actually believe it.
I doubt if he thinks that the course of action he appears to be intent on embarking on is likely to be disastrous. In that case I think that most people outside the United States would disagree with him.
So far as Blair is concerned the media here seems divided between those who think he is just being sycophantic, and those who think he is desperately trying to stay close to Bush in the hope of being some kind of restraining infuence, and minimising the damage.
And I am certain that whatever kind of Al Qaida leadership is around, for example Bin Laden, this is desperately hoping for America to make war on Iraq, especially without UN backing. REmember, these are people who have demonstrated a willingness to sacrifice chess pieces. And Saddam isn't even their chess piece. (There's an older version of chess in which there are more than two sides. Maybe they still play it in some parts of the Middle East.) |
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Subject: RE: SADDAM HAS ULTIMATE WEAPON !!! From: Blackcatter Date: 19 Sep 02 - 11:34 PM Saddam & Iraq is not a threat to the U.S. - They are a threat to Israel. Let Israel take care of Iraq. Why have we been giving them $3 billion a year since the 1970s for if they won't do this themselves? Bush is still overcompensating for the fact that his name is bush - a term used to describe part of the FEMALE anatomy. If our presidents name were something like Peter O'Toole we'd be much more reticent. pax yall |
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Subject: RE: BS: SADDAM HAS ULTIMATE WEAPON !!! From: GUEST,Calumny Date: 20 Sep 02 - 11:08 PM More than fifty per cent of adult Americans think of him as a tool -- surely he should have gotten over his dramatization by now? Calumny |