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Superstition - and traditional ballads.

GUEST,Eoin O'Buadhaigh 18 Sep 02 - 07:37 AM
Malcolm Douglas 18 Sep 02 - 09:49 AM
greg stephens 18 Sep 02 - 09:52 AM
GUEST,maryrrf 18 Sep 02 - 09:56 AM
Malcolm Douglas 18 Sep 02 - 10:25 AM
IanC 18 Sep 02 - 10:35 AM
Fibula Mattock 18 Sep 02 - 11:14 AM
GUEST,Les B. 18 Sep 02 - 01:40 PM
Keith A of Hertford 18 Sep 02 - 02:50 PM
An Croenen 18 Sep 02 - 04:19 PM
Phil Cooper 18 Sep 02 - 04:25 PM
Schantieman 18 Sep 02 - 04:37 PM
Amos 18 Sep 02 - 04:48 PM
GUEST,petr 19 Sep 02 - 04:33 PM
GUEST,eoin 19 Sep 02 - 05:02 PM
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Subject: Superstition - and traditional ballads.
From: GUEST,Eoin O'Buadhaigh
Date: 18 Sep 02 - 07:37 AM

I just replied to a thread on 'Songs to sing at a wedding'. The song I warned not to sing was 'The Red Haired Man's Wife'as this was always ment to bring bad luck to the married couple. Maybe it has something to do with the fact the man had red hair. A sure sign of bad luck in a lot of 'old wives-tales', story telling etc. Does anyone else know of any songs that are connected to the 'BAD LUCK' theme?

slan eoin.


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Subject: RE: Superstition - and traditional ballads.
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 18 Sep 02 - 09:49 AM

More to do with the content of that song than anyone's hair colour, I'd have thought! I can't imagine anyone singing The Week Before Easter or The Nobleman's Wedding at a wedding and making themselves terribly popular, either. I was once told that it was bad luck to play Flowers of the Forest at weddings, but I can't imagine anyone wanting to in the first place, really...


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Subject: RE: Superstition - and traditional ballads.
From: greg stephens
Date: 18 Sep 02 - 09:52 AM

For the same reasons. I would think "The Mistletoe Bough" or "Corby Castle" wouldn't be the best choice, though they are both about weddings.


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Subject: RE: Superstition - and traditional ballads.
From: GUEST,maryrrf
Date: 18 Sep 02 - 09:56 AM

I was asked to sing "She Moved through the Fair" at a wedding. Why would you want a song about a fiance who mysteriously died before the ceremony ????


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Subject: RE: Superstition - and traditional ballads.
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 18 Sep 02 - 10:25 AM

It seems to have been John McCormack who introduced the "dead love" bit to that song, itself a re-write of a traditional song in which the woman simply scarpered with another man. Mind you, that might not go down too well, either!


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Subject: RE: Superstition - and traditional ballads.
From: IanC
Date: 18 Sep 02 - 10:35 AM

Strangely, at least in the South of England, "Lead Us Heavenly Father" (o'er the world's tempestuous seas) is quite popular for weddings, and "Fight the Good Fight" is by no means unknown and seems to be regarded as lucky. (I'm a bellringer and frequently hear quite a few wedding hymns).

:-)
Ian


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Subject: RE: Superstition - and traditional ballads.
From: Fibula Mattock
Date: 18 Sep 02 - 11:14 AM

(oh, hello eoin, by the way)

Wasn't there a thing about "I dreamt I dwelt in marble halls"? Not a traditional one I know, but I remember thon oul harpie Enya whittering away at it and people muttering about no good coming of it. May have been just her singing though.

I always thought Burn's "Cock up your beaver" would make a lovely wedding processional ;)


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Subject: RE: Superstition - and traditional ballads.
From: GUEST,Les B.
Date: 18 Sep 02 - 01:40 PM

We are always a little careful about singing/playing the otherwise popular Bob Wills dance tune "Faded Love" at wedding receptions - because of the title.


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Subject: RE: Superstition - and traditional ballads.
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 18 Sep 02 - 02:50 PM

Another hymn to avoid perhaps might be
Through the night of doubt and sorrow.


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Subject: RE: Superstition - and traditional ballads.
From: An Croenen
Date: 18 Sep 02 - 04:19 PM

Lord Thomas and Fair Eleanor...


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Subject: RE: Superstition - and traditional ballads.
From: Phil Cooper
Date: 18 Sep 02 - 04:25 PM

I suspect that thematically speaking the ballads Eppie Morrie and Lord Thomas and Lady Margaret would not be good songs to sing at weddings. We did have a request from the the groom at a wedding for Rosemary's Sister (at the reception). Every time the poor guy sat down to listen to it, someone would come up and have him whisked away to where his attention was needed.


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Subject: RE: Superstition - and traditional ballads.
From: Schantieman
Date: 18 Sep 02 - 04:37 PM

One of our friends provided a musical interlude (between the ceilidh dancing) at our wedding and I suggested he sing "Making Whoopee" until he pointed out it was about divorce! That's happening in December!

Not on weddings, but I was once warned off singing the ballad, "George Collins" as it was supposed to bring bad luck. Being utterly unsuperstitious I sang it anyway - and forgot the words!

Steve


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Subject: RE: Superstition - and traditional ballads.
From: Amos
Date: 18 Sep 02 - 04:48 PM

In these volatile times, p'raps "Abide With Me" would be appropriate!

A


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Subject: RE: Superstition - and traditional ballads.
From: GUEST,petr
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 04:33 PM

I thought Cock up your Beaver was o'carolan (I think it refers to the hat though) petr


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Subject: RE: Superstition - and traditional ballads.
From: GUEST,eoin
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 05:02 PM

As long as Fibula is wearing her 'cap' what does it matter!


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