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Lyr/Chords Req: Tom Joad / Ghost of Tom Joad

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TOM JOAD


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GUEST,Ed 06 Sep 02 - 03:53 PM
alanabit 06 Sep 02 - 03:58 PM
Mark Ross 06 Sep 02 - 06:25 PM
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Subject: Tom Joad
From: GUEST,Ed
Date: 06 Sep 02 - 03:53 PM

Hi There,

I heard Bruce Springsteen perform this Woodie Guthrie song, and I really want to learn it myself. Anyone know the chords?

thanks in advance,
Ed
towser@mho.com

Tom Joad (click) lyrics in the Digital Tradition.


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Tom Joad
From: alanabit
Date: 06 Sep 02 - 03:58 PM

Same as John Henry by Leadbelly. If you do it in C, the chords are C/F/G and a brief D in the last line of every verse. You will work out the sequence in two minutes. Have fun.


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Tom Joad
From: Mark Ross
Date: 06 Sep 02 - 06:25 PM

Actually, the tune to TOM JOAD is taken from the JOHN HARDY, probably the version by the Carter family. Woody Guthrie tended to use their tunes a lot.

Mark Ross


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Tom Joad
From: CraigS
Date: 06 Sep 02 - 06:38 PM

Is that the one that begins

John Hardy was a desperate little man, he robbed the Denver stage


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Tom Joad
From: Suffet
Date: 06 Sep 02 - 06:40 PM

The tune is actually one often used for John Hardy, or in Woody Guthrie's repertoire, Johnny Hard. What gives the tune its characteristic sound is the flatted 7th note sung to the accompaniment of the subdominant (IV) chord. For example, in the key of C major, the singer would hit a b-flat note while playing an F chord. I have marked each of those those notes with an asterisk. Chord changes are indicated immediately before the syllables on which they occur.

[C] Tom [F] Joad got out* of the [C] old McAlester pen,

It was [F] there he got* his pa- [C] -role,

After [F] four long years* on a [C] man killing charge,

Tom Joad come a walking down the road, poor boy,

Tom Joad come a [G] walking down the [C] road.


You can try to pick out the melody on the guitar, using you thumb or a flat pick, with a Carter Family style rhythm. If you do so, you get the b-flat by stopping the 3rd string on the 3rd fret while otherwise playing an F major chord.


--- Steve


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Tom Joad
From: Janice in NJ
Date: 06 Sep 02 - 07:00 PM

Johnny Hard!

Now that's my kind of song!


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Tom Joad
From: alanabit
Date: 07 Sep 02 - 05:01 AM

Thanks Mark. You're right of course. It's that many years since I had the Leadbelly LP!


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Subject: ADDPOP: The Ghost of Tom Joad (Springsteen)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 07 Sep 02 - 02:41 PM

Hmmmm. Springsteen wrote and recorded a song called "The Ghost of Tom Joad," the title song of his 1995 album (good one, too). Did he also record Guthrie's "Tom Joad"? Here are the lyrics of Springsteen's "Joad," which I found at this Springsteen lyrics site (click).
-Joe Offer - (e-mail sent)


The Ghost of Tom Joad
Bruce Springsteen, 1995

Men walkin' 'long the railroad tracks
Goin' someplace there's no goin' back
Highway patrol choppers comin' up over the ridge
Hot soup on a campfire under the bridge

Shelter line stretchin' 'round the corner
Welcome to the new world order
Families sleepin' in their cars in the Southwest
No home, no job, no peace, no rest

The highway is alive tonight
But nobody's kiddin' nobody about where it goes
I'm sittin' down here in the campfire light
Searchin' for the ghost of Tom Joad

He pulls a prayer book out of his sleeping bag
Preacher lights up a butt and takes a drag
Waitin' for when the last shall be first and the first shall be last
In a cardboard box 'neath the underpass

Got a one-way ticket to the promised land
You got a hole in your belly and a gun in your hand
Sleeping on a pillow of solid rock
Bathin' in the city aqueduct

The highway is alive tonight
Where it's headed everybody knows
I'm sittin' down here in the campfire light
Waitin' on the ghost of Tom Joad

Now Tom said "Mom, wherever there's a cop beatin' a guy
Wherever a hungry newborn baby cries
Where there's a fight 'gainst the blood and hatred in the air
Look for me, Mom, I'll be there
Wherever there's somebody fightin' for a place to stand
Or decent job or a helpin' hand
Wherever somebody's strugglin' to be free
Look in their eyes, Mom, you'll see me"

Well the highway is alive tonight
But nobody's kiddin' nobody about where it goes
I'm sittin' down here in the campfire light
With the ghost of old Tom Joad

This site (click) has a couple of versions of the chords for the Springsteen song.
By the way, I got a nice note of thanks from Ed, who posted the original request. He said that Springsteen did a powerful, acoustic version of Guthrie's "Tom Joad" in some of his appearances on his "Ghost of Tom Joad" tour. If you've never heard Springsteen go acoustic, you're missing something. He did a couple of great cuts on the Folkways/Vision Shared album, "I Ain't Got No Home" and "Viugilante Man." I'd also recommend his Nebraska album.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Tom Joad
From: Joe Offer
Date: 07 Sep 02 - 03:14 PM

I found an interesting point at this site (click):

Springsteen borrows Tom Joad's farewell soliloquy from John Ford's 1940 movie of John Steinbeck's novel ``The Grapes of Wrath'' for the title track: ``Wherever there's a cop beatin' a guy/Wherever a hungry newborn baby cries/Where there's a fight 'gainst the blood and hatred in the air/Look for me Mom I'll be there.''
These lines are spoken by Henry Fonda, who plays Tom Joad. Both Springsteen and Guthrie use the passage in their songs. Is there a similar speech in the novel? I looked, but couldn't find it.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Tom Joad
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 07 Sep 02 - 04:31 PM

That speech is not in the song as Guthrie sang it. It went like this:

Wherever people is a-fightin' for their rights
Wherever people ain't free
Everywhere that you look in the dark, rainy night
That's where I'm a-gonna be,
Maw,
That's where I'm a-gonna be!

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Tom Joad
From: Suffet
Date: 08 Sep 02 - 10:25 AM

John Steinbeck's fictional character Tom Joad is mentioned in one of the verses of Bruce "U. Utah" Phillips' song Goodbye, Joe Hill. The other names Phillips mentions in the song are all those of real people: Joe Hill, Gene Debs, and Ammon [Hennacy]. Here's the Tom Joad verse:

Goodbye, Tom Joad, we'll meet I don't know where,
We're a better kind of people for knowing you were there,
It was a damn good fight, Tom, but we lost and that's a shame,
Still I'm glad we stood and fought it all the same.



--- Steve


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Tom Joad
From: GUEST,terdon
Date: 15 Apr 03 - 10:16 AM

I found this here. Thought you might find it interesting...

Seen the pitcher last night, Grapes of Wrath, best cussed pitcher I ever seen.

The Grapes of Wrath, you know is about us pullin' out of Oklahoma and Arkansas, and down south, and a driftin' around over state of California, busted, disgusted, down and out, and a lookin' for work.

Shows you how come us to be that a way. Shows the dam bankers men that broke us and the dust that choked us, and comes right out in plain old English and says what to do about it.

It says you got to get together and have some meetins, and stick together, and raise old billy hell till you get youre job, and get your farm back, and your house and your chickens and your groceries and your clothes, and your money back.

Go to see Grapes of Wrath, pardner, go to see it and don't miss.

You was the star in that picture. Go and see your own self and hear your own words and your own song.

Woody Guthrie, in one of his People's World columns (1939-'40), reprinted in Woody Sez, New York, NY, 1975, p. 133.


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Tom Joad
From: GUEST,Bill Kennedy
Date: 21 Nov 03 - 10:34 AM

near the end of Chapter 28 when Tom leaves the family:

   They sat silent in the coal-black cave of vines. Ma said, "How'm I gonna know 'bout you? They might kill ya an' I wouldn' know. They might hurt ya. How'm I gonna know?"
   Tom laughed uneasily, "Well maybe like Casy says, a fella ain't giot a soul of his own, but on'y a piece of a big one---an' then---"
   "Then what, Tom?"
   "Then it don' matter. Then I'll be all aroun' in the dark. I'll be ever'where--wherever you look. Wherever they's a fight so hungry people can eat, I'll be there. Wherever they's a cop beatin' up a guy, I'll be there. If Casy knowed, why, I'll be in the way guys yell when they're mad an'---I"ll be in the way kids laugh when they're hungry an' they know supper's ready. An' when our folks eat the stuff they raise an' live in the houses they build---why, I'll be there. See? God, I', talkin' like Casy. Comes of thinkin' about him so much. Seems like I can see him sometimes."


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Tom Joad
From: freda underhill
Date: 10 Jan 04 - 09:03 AM

tonight i was at an andy irvine concert in sydney (at the harp hotel).

andy played this song (Tom Joad) which he described as a 13 verse summary of John Steinbeck's the Grapes of Wrath.

Andy said that John Steinbeck went up to Woody Guthrie one night, after hearing him play Tom Joad, and said,i wish that you'd written this song before I wrote the book. It would have saved me a lot of work!

freda


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Subject: Lyr Req: tom joad
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Aug 06 - 02:15 PM

im looking for the woody guthrie lyrics to tom joad....i jsut seen a pbs special of his life and saw this song on there and it is stuck in my head.....thanks
    Hi - I've moved you over to this thread so we can continue the ongoing discussion.
    -Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: tom joad
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 01 Aug 06 - 02:19 PM

Tom Joad


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Tom Joad
From: Scoville
Date: 01 Aug 06 - 02:34 PM

Seems that a lot of the requests we've been getting lately have been Woody-related. Not complaining, of course, but might this help?


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Subject: DT Correction: Tom Joad (Woody Guthrie)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 01 Aug 06 - 02:35 PM

I'm still looking for a Springsteen recording of Woody's "Tom Joad." Has he recorded it?
-Joe-
Here are the DT lyrics of Tom Joad, with corrections. Most of the problem with the DT lyrics are missing or misplaced line breaks.
My Woody Guthrie songbook has
    Us workin' folks is all get together
which may be Woody's original wording, but I prefer the DT's
    Us workin' folks got to all get together
woodyguthrie.org has
    Us workin' folkses, all get together
Maybe that's what Woody was saying.



TOM JOAD
(Woody Guthrie)

Tom Joad got out of the old McAlester Pen
There he got his parole
After four long years on a man killing charge,
Tom Joad come a walking down the road, poor boy,
Tom Joad come a walking down the road

Tom Joad he met a truck driving man
There he caught him a ride.
He said: "I just got loose from McAlester's Pen
On a charge called Homicide,
A charge called Homicide."

That truck rolled away in a cloud of dust,
Tommy turned his face toward home,
He met Preacher Casey and they had a little drink,
But they found that his family they was gone,
He found that his family they was gone.

He found his mother's old fashioned shoe,
Found his daddy's hat,
And he found little Muley and Muley said:
"They've been tractored out by the cats,
They've been tractored out by the cats."

Tom Joad walked down to the neighbors farm
Found his family.
They took Preacher Casey and loaded in a car
And his mother said "We got to git away."
His mother said 'We got to get away."

Now the twelve of the Joads made a mighty heavy load,
But Grandpa Joad did cry.
He picked up a handful of land in his hand
Said: "I'm stayin' with the farm till I die.
Yes, I'm stayin' with my farm till I die."

They fed him short ribs and coffee and soothing syrup
And Grandpa Joad did die.
They buried Grandpa Joad by the side of the road,
Buried Grandma on the California side,
They buried Grandma on the California side.

They stood on a mountain and they looked to the West
And it looked like the promised land.
That bright green valley with a river running through,
There was work for every single hand, they thought,
There was work for every single hand.

The Joads rolled away to Jungle Camp,
There they cooked a stew.
And the hungry little kids of the Jungle Camp
Said: "We'd like to have some too."
Said: "We'd like to have some too."

Now a Deputy Sheriff fired loose at a man,
Shot a woman in the back.
Before he could take his aim again
Preacher Casey dropped him in his track.
Preacher Casey dropped him in his track.

They handcuffed Casey and they took him to jail,
And then he got away.
And he met Tom Joad on the old river bridge,
And these few words he did say, poor boy,
These few words he did say.

"I preached for the Lord a mighty long time
Preached about the rich and the poor.
Us workin' folks [got to] is all get together,
Cause we ain't got a chance anymore.
We ain't got a chance anymore."

The Deputies come and Tom and Casey run
To the bridge where the water run down.
But the vigilantes they hit Casey with a club,
They laid Preacher Casey on the ground.
They laid Preacher Casey on the ground.

Tom Joad he grabbed that Deputy's club,
Hit him over the head.
Tom Joad took flight in the dark rainy night,
A Deputy and a Preacher lying dead, two men,
A Deputy and a Preacher lying dead.

Tom run back where his mother was asleep,
He woke her up out of bed.
Then he kissed goodbye to the mother that he loved,
Said what Preacher Casey said, Tom Joad,
He said what Preacher Casey said.

"Ever'body might be just one big soul
Well it looks that a way to me.
Everywhere that you look in the day or night
That's where I'm gonna be, Ma,
That's where I'm gonna be.

Wherever little children are hungry and cry,
Wherever people ain't free,
Wherever men are fightin' for their rights,
That's where I'm gonna be, Ma.
That's where I'm a gonna be.



Source: The [Nearly] Complete Collection of Woody Guthrie Folk Songs, Ludlow Music, 1963.

@America @outlaw @work @west @political
filename[ TOMJOAD
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For a good selection of verified Woody Guthrie lyrics, see http://www.woodyguthrie.org


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Tom Joad
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Aug 06 - 04:43 PM

what are the chords/tabs to this?


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Tom Joad
From: Joe Offer
Date: 01 Aug 06 - 05:35 PM

Steve Suffet posted one version of the chords above. The "nearly complete" songbook has it in this way:

Tom [Ab] Joad got out* of the [Eb] old McAlester pen,

It was [Ab] there he got* his pa- [Eb] -role,

After [Ab] four long years* on a [Eb] man killing charge,

Tom Joad come a walking down the road, poor boy,

Tom Joad come a walking [Bb] down the [Eb] road.


As Steve says, the tune is "John Hardy."

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From: Freewalk
Date: 04 Nov 06 - 09:13 AM

THE BALLAD OF TOM JOAD
(Words by TF sung to tune: Ballad of Jed Clampett by Paul Henning)

Come n listen to my story bout a man named Joad
A man pulled a knife on him, squished him like a toad
From McAlister prison he was pe-rolled
Went back to his Okie kin or so the story's told
Dust that is, dirty dust, Okie blues

Well, they said Kalifornia's the place for all you hicks
So they loaded up their truck and rolled down Sixty-six
On that long trip a lotta kinfolk croak
So they buried em by the road it weren't no joke
Hard times, hoternhell, no fun 'tall

Crossed that desert, lucky little bunch
Vultures looked down at them thought that they was lunch
Next thin ya knowed they was in a labor camp
Flood came along and made 'em mighty damp
Water ma! real water, no foolin!

Now it's time to say goodbye to Tom and all his kin
Steinbeck thanks you fer sharin' his sentimentalism
Yer all invited back again to this locality
When Joads'll be workin in the defense industry
Good jobs, real pay, retirement benefits!


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