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Help: Books for folk music library

wilco 02 Aug 02 - 10:11 AM
IanC 02 Aug 02 - 10:23 AM
GUEST 02 Aug 02 - 11:02 AM
IanC 02 Aug 02 - 11:14 AM
GUEST 02 Aug 02 - 11:19 AM
IanC 02 Aug 02 - 11:28 AM
GUEST,Hippie Chick 02 Aug 02 - 11:43 AM
open mike 02 Aug 02 - 01:46 PM
Dicho (Frank Staplin) 02 Aug 02 - 05:15 PM
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Subject: Books for folk music library
From: wilco
Date: 02 Aug 02 - 10:11 AM

Which books would be "essential" to building a resource library for folk music? I really appreciate the kindness and scholarship evident in Mudcat. Thanks!!!! Wilco 48 in Tennessee


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Subject: RE: Help: Books for folk music library
From: IanC
Date: 02 Aug 02 - 10:23 AM

Wilco

It may depend what kind of "Folk" you are most interested in.

Why not look in the Basic Folk Library PermaThread!

:-)
Ian


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Subject: RE: Help: Books for folk music library
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Aug 02 - 11:02 AM

The Basic Folk Library is absolutely the coolest reference I've ever seen! I never knew that was here. Is it OK if I copy&paste some of it to my Folkie Folks site? http://groups.msn.com/FolkieFolks/ I'm trying to build my site up and this is the neatest.

Hippie Chick.


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Subject: RE: Help: Books for folk music library
From: IanC
Date: 02 Aug 02 - 11:14 AM

No problem - use View Source first, and you'll get the HTML direct.

Cheers! Ian


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Subject: RE: Help: Books for folk music library
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Aug 02 - 11:19 AM

If you follow Ian's advice, you'll also get all the Mudcat junk (headers etc) too.

Far better to copy and paste the text and delete/add formatting as desired


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Subject: RE: Help: Books for folk music library
From: IanC
Date: 02 Aug 02 - 11:28 AM

Guest

She can go to my site and get the most recent version without the Mudcat "junk" *** here ***. Saves redoing all the formatting (unless you want to).

:-)


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Subject: RE: Help: Books for folk music library
From: GUEST,Hippie Chick
Date: 02 Aug 02 - 11:43 AM

Thanks, Ian! I will check it out like you and Guest said!

HC


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Subject: RE: Help: Books for folk music library
From: open mike
Date: 02 Aug 02 - 01:46 PM

sing out! song book is the absolute bible-- i mean rise up singing. it seems it would be best to credit this site if using text taken directly from here- so folks know to come here for the source. I would think you should link to mud cat and encourage new members to join here. there is also a song book from many yeas ago-the fireside book of folk songs=perhaps a Lomax edited volume which has a great collection.


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Subject: RE: Help: Books for folk music library
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)
Date: 02 Aug 02 - 05:15 PM

Ian's list is pretty good, but there are errors.
Under USA Regional, the Frank C. Brown Collection of North Carolina Folklore definitely was published, in 7 volumes by the Duke University Press. Especially important are vol. 2, Folk Ballads from North Carolina, vol. 3, Folk Songs from North Carolina, vol. 4, The Music of the Ballads, and vol. 5, The Music of the Folk Songs. Volumes 4 and 5 are obtainable for a reasonable price (ca. $30 each) but 2 and 3, hopefully, will be in your town library. A complete set was advertised recently for $1300. I don't know where Ian got the nonsense about "T for Texas...." (not in his "The Music of the Folk Songs," not a folk song, certainly not in Randolph).
The Vance Randolph 4-volume set, Ozark Folksongs, has been reprinted and is available through bookdealers for less than $150.
Vance Randolph was not self-taught; he held degrees from Kansas State and Clark Universities, was in graduate school at the University of Kansas seeking a Ph. D. in psychology but his other interests intervened. Associates in preparing his material included Profs. Kittredge of Harvard and Belden of Missouri (an English professor who also edited two volumes of the Brown Collection). Randolph contributed to folklore journals. Very few American academics who collected folk songs ever had a degree specializing in folklore or music; they were "self-taught."
The very useful "Songs of the American West" by Lingenfelter, Dwyer and Cohen is not on the Regional list.
Botkin's easily obtained regional books are not listed.
Carl Sandburg's "The New American Songbook," the supplement to "The American Songbag," is not in the USA general listing.


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Subject: RE: Help: Books for folk music library
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Aug 02 - 06:21 PM

Lotta holes in the books on Irish music.


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Subject: RE: Help: Books for folk music library
From: Mudlark
Date: 03 Aug 02 - 12:31 AM

A plug for the Mudcat auction...there is a book there of interesting and offbeat Irish tunes...


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Subject: RE: Help: Books for folk music library
From: Joe Offer
Date: 03 Aug 02 - 09:30 PM

You may also want to check the bibliography (click) of the Traditional Ballad Index.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Help: Books for folk music library
From: IanC
Date: 09 Aug 02 - 04:58 AM

Dicho:

Like everything in the Basic Folk Library, books were originally suggested by Mudcatters and - most often - the information is provided by them on mudcat threads. I always try to check publication information and usually (60% of the time) have to correct it. The descriptive information, however, I just quote from the source (though, if there is none, I usually try to find something from a review or other source, unless I know the book myself). The "T For Texas Nonsense", as you put it, came from Sandy Paton. I have a problem if two people disagree about what is said, but it's usually resolvable by PMs.

Guest:

As I said to Dicho, all these books are what is recommended by people on Mudcat. If you would like to suggest some Irish music books which have so far not appeared, why not do just that?

:-)
Ian


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