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GUEST,Frieda Mann Justice 28 Jun 02 - 05:55 PM
Little Hawk 28 Jun 02 - 06:07 PM
GUEST,DW at Work 28 Jun 02 - 06:24 PM
GUEST,Edith Ann 28 Jun 02 - 09:56 PM
Little Hawk 28 Jun 02 - 10:12 PM
Stephen L. Rich 29 Jun 02 - 03:38 AM
GUEST,Sonja 29 Jun 02 - 04:22 AM
Coyote Breath 30 Jun 02 - 12:15 AM
Brían 30 Jun 02 - 11:18 PM
Mrrzy 01 Jul 02 - 10:06 AM
Genie 01 Jul 02 - 04:24 PM
GUEST,Just Amy 01 Jul 02 - 04:37 PM
Mark Cohen 02 Jul 02 - 03:22 AM
beadie 02 Jul 02 - 12:23 PM
GUEST,Sonja 02 Jul 02 - 02:00 PM
Little Hawk 02 Jul 02 - 03:24 PM
Stephen L. Rich 02 Jul 02 - 06:41 PM
Wincing Devil 03 Jul 02 - 12:21 PM
katlaughing 13 Dec 02 - 11:28 AM
TIA 13 Dec 02 - 11:35 AM
Hollowfox 13 Dec 02 - 12:14 PM
Bat Goddess 13 Dec 02 - 12:54 PM
GUEST,Sonja 13 Dec 02 - 01:31 PM
NicoleC 13 Dec 02 - 01:35 PM
beadie 13 Dec 02 - 02:24 PM

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Subject: New Words To Pledge of Allegiance (USA)
From: GUEST,Frieda Mann Justice
Date: 28 Jun 02 - 05:55 PM

Without getting into the controversy over the constitutionality of the current USA pledge to the flag, I'm suggesting the following as substitute words that you can say, while others are saying the pledge, without anyone even noticing:

I fled your legions
to the frog
of the alighted snakes of a miracle
Into there a pub, like
for Richard's stance
Won lotion
and derisible
for awe.

Frieda


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Subject: RE: New Words To Pledge of Allegiance (USA)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Jun 02 - 06:07 PM

Or how about:

I pledge allegiance to the Dollar
Of the United States of America
And to the supremacy for which it stands
One currency
More omnipotent than God
Uncounterfeitable
With competition and instant gratification for all.

(Well, all who are in the "in" group, anyway...)

Hail Caesar!

- LH


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Subject: RE: New Words To Pledge of Allegiance (USA)
From: GUEST,DW at Work
Date: 28 Jun 02 - 06:24 PM

There's a much ruder version around too, but I'm at work so I better not.

DW


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Subject: RE: New Words To Pledge of Allegiance (USA)
From: GUEST,Edith Ann
Date: 28 Jun 02 - 09:56 PM

My name is Edith Ann an' I'm five years old. Pppbbblllt!
My teacher taught me to say this with the other kids in kindygarden ev'ry mornig.

"I played your lesions,
tootie flack,
up the united steaks over marigold.
<br>Into derry public for orchard stands,
<br>One Asian, under cod,
<br>Indy fizzible.

Dunno what that means, but teacher says it's psychotic to say it.

Pppbblllltt!


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Subject: RE: New Words To Pledge of Allegiance (USA)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Jun 02 - 10:12 PM

Most of the little kids figure the "indivisible" part is the word "invisible". Interesting concept. A nation is, in a sense, an invisible entity after all...since it's a mental and emotional creation.

- LH


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Subject: RE: New Words To Pledge of Allegiance (USA)
From: Stephen L. Rich
Date: 29 Jun 02 - 03:38 AM

A grudge and grievance to the snag of the Onion Snakes of Asparagus, and to the repugnance of witches hands urination undergone invisible with liver teas and just ask for AL.


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Subject: RE: New Words To Pledge of Allegiance (USA)
From: GUEST,Sonja
Date: 29 Jun 02 - 04:22 AM

LOL, Rich!


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Subject: RE: New Words To Pledge of Allegiance (USA)
From: Coyote Breath
Date: 30 Jun 02 - 12:15 AM

Right Arm! Farm out! Out of state!

Gudonya Rich!:)

CB


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Subject: RE: New Words To Pledge of Allegiance (USA)
From: Brían
Date: 30 Jun 02 - 11:18 PM

That was really good Rich!

Brían


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Subject: RE: New Words To Pledge of Allegiance (USA)
From: Mrrzy
Date: 01 Jul 02 - 10:06 AM

I like the original best - I pledge allegiance to my flag, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty, equality, and justice for all. I don't pledge allegiance, but at least that one's not jingoistic.


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Subject: RE: New Words To Pledge of Allegiance (USA)
From: Genie
Date: 01 Jul 02 - 04:24 PM

I like it too, Mrrzy, but I think folks are kidding themselves if they believe they are making children truly patriotic by having them recite it in school before they even understand what the words mean. Similarly, taking the later-added "under God" back out of the pledge will no more encourage children to be godless than leaving it in will make them religious.


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Subject: RE: New Words To Pledge of Allegiance (USA)
From: GUEST,Just Amy
Date: 01 Jul 02 - 04:37 PM

Under God. Are you sure it is "under God"? I'm positive that isn't what we said when I was a kid. I thought it was dog. No, maybe that was my dyslexia........


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Subject: RE: New Words To Pledge of Allegiance (USA)
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 02 Jul 02 - 03:22 AM

Coyote Breath, you just flashed me right back to 1969! And I always thought I'd made those up. Musta been the d---

Aloha,
Mark


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Subject: RE: New Words To Pledge of Allegiance (USA)
From: beadie
Date: 02 Jul 02 - 12:23 PM

My preference would be to replace the offending phrase with the words "under guard," in recognition of the anticipated condition once the new Homeland Security Department is up and running.


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Subject: RE: New Words To Pledge of Allegiance (USA)
From: GUEST,Sonja
Date: 02 Jul 02 - 02:00 PM

Our fragile egos
do deflate
if the United States of America
is totally public
for witches' hands.
One may shun, under God,
individuals
while liberty is just not for all
 

~SWO~


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Subject: RE: BS: New Words To Pledge of Allegiance (USA)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Jul 02 - 03:24 PM

Well thought out, Sonja...

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: New Words To Pledge of Allegiance (USA)
From: Stephen L. Rich
Date: 02 Jul 02 - 06:41 PM

Well done, Sonja.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Words To Pledge of Allegiance (USA)
From: Wincing Devil
Date: 03 Jul 02 - 12:21 PM

When I was in high scholl, I doctored the words to "dedicated to the principle of liberty and justice for all" because that's what I truly felt.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Words To Pledge of Allegiance (USA)
From: katlaughing
Date: 13 Dec 02 - 11:28 AM

Just saw this version on a poster at a site to which Hille posted a link:

I pledge allegiance to the Consitution of the United States
of America and in the Republic which it established:
one Nation out of many Peoples with Liberty and Justice for all.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Words To Pledge of Allegiance (USA)
From: TIA
Date: 13 Dec 02 - 11:35 AM

I think most little kids recite a Mondegreen instead of the actual pledge. Best I've seen was recalled by an Asian-american woman journalist (NPR?) who used to think it was...

I pledge a lesson to the frog
of the United States of America
and to the wee puppets for witches hands
one asian
in the vestibule
with little teas, and just rice for all

I think this was in an autobiography, but I can't put my hands on it.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Words To Pledge of Allegiance (USA)
From: Hollowfox
Date: 13 Dec 02 - 12:14 PM

When I was in high school, I started wondering about allegiance to a piece of cloth, so I added two little words:

I pledge allegiance, not to the flag...
and then
But to the republic for which it stands.

Nobody seemed to notice in the general morning mumble, but I take my oaths seriously. I've passed this suggestion on to my kids too, but I don't know if they use it.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Words To Pledge of Allegiance (USA)
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 13 Dec 02 - 12:54 PM

Exactly, Hollowfox. Why would thinking people want to worship a flag?

I remember when they stopped requiring the rote pledge recitation in school -- something about daily repetition causing no one to pay any attention to it and making it meaningless.

Personally, I think the wording was pretty meaningless right from the beginning. I definitely prefer the "I pledge allegiance to the Consitution of the United States of America and in the Republic which it established: one Nation out of many Peoples with Liberty and Justice for all." as posted above.

Linn


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Subject: RE: BS: New Words To Pledge of Allegiance (USA)
From: GUEST,Sonja
Date: 13 Dec 02 - 01:31 PM

TIA, that's wonderful!!


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Subject: RE: BS: New Words To Pledge of Allegiance (USA)
From: NicoleC
Date: 13 Dec 02 - 01:35 PM

Growing up as aJehovah's Witness, we weren't allowed to recite the Pledge because JH's perceive it as 1) idolatry and 2) pledging allegiance to a government instead of to God. Always made sense to me.

But I do like that alternate version above. Why pledge to a piece of cloth? The symbol of the flag represents America, not the other way around. I also like the original, which was, "I pledge allegiance to my Flag and (to*) the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."


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Subject: RE: BS: New Words To Pledge of Allegiance (USA)
From: beadie
Date: 13 Dec 02 - 02:24 PM

I'm sort of attached to the current wording, with one minor alteration.

Instead of "under God," I find it more appropriate to insert "under guard." It seems to fit better, considering all the watching, reporting, chastising, and the like that accompany the recitation of this rather trite little ditty.


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