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Subject: Online petition to save webcasting!! From: katlaughing Date: 10 May 02 - 11:20 AM I didn't want this to get buried, or for people ot have to dig around the linked website, in the other thread, to find it. Please consider signing this online petition, which can your read HERE. For more info please see the other current thread on Internet radio. Sorry I will put in a link in a minute. Thanks! kat |
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Subject: RE: Online petition to save webcasting!! From: GUEST Date: 10 May 02 - 12:02 PM Mmmm, so you want to 'save' people who, without permission, and illegally, use other peoples work to make money??? Shan't be signing myself, I'm afraid. |
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Subject: RE: Online petition to save webcasting!! From: GUEST,Bill Kennedy Date: 10 May 02 - 01:45 PM Guest, that is not what it's about at all. Small, often college radio stations, many non-profit, will be forced off the web, just like some 'catter's favorite music sites have been recently. In the past, FM radio stations convinced the music industry that they were providing a service by allowing the public to hear the artist's work, who would then go out and buy recordings, attend concerts, etc. Now giant mega-corporations own many FM stations and are all playing the same thing, almost no folk, blues, jazz, world, alternative on the air except on college stations. A nominal fee to an organization like ASCAP or BMI should be all that is needed, but the porkacracy/corpocracy that is in control has imposed ridiculously high fees based on web site hits, and even worse paperwork - documentation requirements. I just wish signing would actually do some good. Where money is considered speech, most of us have little or no voice. |
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Subject: RE: Online petition to save webcasting!! From: C-flat Date: 10 May 02 - 01:49 PM What Bill Kennedy said, Exactly! |
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Subject: RE: Online petition to save webcasting!! From: Clinton Hammond Date: 10 May 02 - 02:05 PM Has a petition anywhere ever changed anything? Let alone an internet petition??? I'm in favour of what the petition has to say, I just can't help but questions it's effectiveness... I mean, it's not like yer 'voting' or like the U.S. Copyright Office is a democracy... So what do you think a petition is going to accomplish? |
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Subject: RE: Online petition to save webcasting!! From: GUEST,Bill Kennedy Date: 10 May 02 - 02:39 PM no, CLinton, I don't think an internet petition is going to do it, but sometimes they count the numbers, this is what's going on in my area, largley through the petitions and phone calls from college broadcasters For Immediate Release Contact: Kathie Scarrah Thursday May 9, 2002 (202) 225-5871 Kucinich Urges Greater Webcasting Flexibility for College Radio, Small Internet Radio Providers Will be represented at U.S. Copyright Roundtable Friday in Washington Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) will be represented tomorrow before the U.S. Copyright Office to urge an exemption for small Internet-only radio site, and educational and community stations from costly record keeping requirements which could silence these stations. The Copyright Office has drafted rules as required by the Digital Millennium Copyright Act of 1998 (DMCA) which, if finalized, could put these stations and webcasting sites out of business with onerous record keeping requirements, fee structures, and content restrictions. "These stations and websites often fill a void with music, entertainment and information that isn't profitable on commercial stations," Congressman Kucinich said. "My constituents have long enjoyed the wide programming choices they offer. The proposed webcast rules, if approved, would silence the kind of innovative programming that listeners have enjoyed for years. College radio and small webcasting businesses must be allowed to grow on the Internet. They should not be silenced." Ohio's 10th Congressional District is served by WBWC/88.3-FM Berea (Baldwin Wallace College), WRUW/91.1-FM Cleveland (Case Western Reserve University), WCSB/89.3-FM (Cleveland State University), and WUJC/88.7-FM University Heights (John Carroll University), and several small Internet-only radio stations. Kucinich has filed comments with the U.S. Copyright Office and with the House Judiciary Committee after receiving complaints from college radio stations and small webcasting enterprises about the proposed rules. Kucinich will be represented by counsel tomorrow at the roundtable panel at the Copyright Office. Staff Counsel Marty Gelfand will serve on the Small Business panel of the Copyright Office's roundtable. |
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Subject: RE: Online petition to save webcasting!! From: MMario Date: 10 May 02 - 04:08 PM |
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Subject: RE: Online petition to save webcasting!! From: Clinton Hammond Date: 10 May 02 - 04:09 PM Ya don't say, MMario.... ;-)
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Subject: RE: Online petition to save webcasting!! From: MMario Date: 10 May 02 - 04:11 PM what I was going to say was that SOME of those stations actually only air things for which they have permission to web-cast. Which should make their paying ANY fee moot - but won't |
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Subject: RE: Online petition to save webcasting!! From: GUEST Date: 10 May 02 - 05:15 PM I believe that this only applies in the USA? Oh, silly me, I forgot that the USA constitutes the entire world to most of you. I'll try to remember that in future.
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Subject: RE: Online petition to save webcasting!! From: Peg Date: 11 May 02 - 01:58 AM hey, dumbass GUEST, the internet is (get this) INTERNATIONAL. So people the world over WILL be affected by this.
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Subject: RE: Online petition to save webcasting!! From: Genie Date: 11 May 02 - 09:23 AM I don't know how copyright laws apply to talk radio, but are the opinions voiced by callers on such shows considered the intellectual property of the station? <Br> One reason I want access to web radio is so that I can listen to shows that my local stations have cancelled or just won't carry. <br> Talk radio in Seattle, Portland, and San Diego is extremely skewed to the far right [and, generally, the more assinine and vitriolic the host, the better]. The only place you can get much of a sensible dialogue on issues is on Talk of The Nation on PBS. <br> Also, I often miss my favorite radio shows, such as Prairie Home Companion, because my schedule conflicts with theirs. I had hoped that when I got a faster web connection, I would be able to thumb my nose at the local station owners --and the clock!--and tune in to whatever program I wanted, whenever I wanted. Will the proposed changes to copyright law mean that we can't access regular broadcast shows at alternate times and from far-off locations via the web? Genie |
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Subject: RE: Online petition to save webcasting!! From: GUEST,Bill Kennedy Date: 11 May 02 - 01:50 PM Yes, Genie, that's what it means, and yes to guest, this is US law, but it has international ramifications, if you listen to any music from any website originating in the US. |
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Subject: RE: Online petition to save webcasting!! From: GUEST,Bill Kennedy Date: 11 May 02 - 01:54 PM I should say to Genie, more correctly, that PBS network has already negotiated a seperate rate with the music industry, so it shouldn't interrupt your webcast of Prairie Home Companion and the like, but more concern is the smaller college stations that broadcast most of the folk and blues and world music on the net |
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Subject: RE: Online petition to save webcasting!! From: katlaughing Date: 11 May 02 - 02:54 PM Unless you are talking about a visual version of PHC, it would have to be Public Radio Interntaional or National Public Radio as PBS, Public Broadcasting System, is strictly television, as far as I know. There is some speculation going on right now among the smaller stations of going to overseas servers in order to circumvent CARP, but no one seems to know if that will hold, either. |
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Subject: RE: Online petition to save webcasting!! From: katlaughing Date: 13 May 02 - 01:36 PM Only a week to go before before the hearings on this. Here is a clickie for the other related thread. Here's an update from my friend: Here's another article on CARP. The hearings are coming up a week from tomorrow May 21. Twenty senators have now taken a stand in favor of internet broadcasting. Those bastards made a mockery out of America's over air broadcast, let's not let 'em take our dreams of a creative future and place them in a world where only Clear Channel and the like can afford to bitcast (I already know all three of the songs they play). As I said to the congress people: If this would have happened at the inception of over-air broadcast; would radio as we know it have become a good idea that never flew? |
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