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BS: The best hobby

C-flat 07 May 02 - 01:11 PM
Cappuccino 07 May 02 - 01:57 PM
McGrath of Harlow 07 May 02 - 02:09 PM
Mr Happy 08 May 02 - 05:36 AM
Charcloth 08 May 02 - 07:18 AM
Bobert 08 May 02 - 07:48 AM
Jim Krause 08 May 02 - 07:54 AM
C-flat 08 May 02 - 09:06 AM
GUEST,GUEST : Phil Plumb 08 May 02 - 09:15 AM
McGrath of Harlow 08 May 02 - 09:21 AM
McGrath of Harlow 08 May 02 - 09:21 AM
Kim C 08 May 02 - 10:16 AM
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Subject: The best hobby
From: C-flat
Date: 07 May 02 - 01:11 PM

I was just reading a thread about making a choice between menial work or playing guitar for a living and I was thinking how fantastic it would be to make a proper living from what I now regard as my hobby. I have tried in the past , before family responsibilities took precedence, but it never amounted to much more than I could have made digging gardens over as the "money-gigs" were inconsistent. Now that the guitar is purely a hobby for me I've come to appreciate how good a choice of hobby it is! Imagine if fishing had been my thing?.......At the end of an afternoons fishing who's going to come over and pat my back, tell me how much they enjoyed watching me reel in that last fish and press a few quid into my hand to cover my expenses? The truth is, most of us would, and probably do, play for nothing! Is it the chance to share music with other like-minded people?......or do we just like showing off? Either way I'm not going to stop now!


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Subject: RE: BS: The best hobby
From: Cappuccino
Date: 07 May 02 - 01:57 PM

I think that to one degree or another, we're all show-offs... the desire to be appreciated seems to be common to all musicians.

Glad you're having fun with it!

- Ian B


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Subject: RE: BS: The best hobby
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 07 May 02 - 02:09 PM

Showing off, yes - but more basically, it's the desire to have people listen to you, which isn't quite the same thing, because it includes wanting to pass things on to other people, songs, ways of playing and so forth.

With the best people in folk music it's not themselves they are showing off, its the songs and the music.

What's happens here on the Mudcat fits into that. Sometimes it's showing off, more times its not exactly that.


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Subject: RE: BS: The best hobby
From: Mr Happy
Date: 08 May 02 - 05:36 AM

i agree with all above

for me it's one way of making sure that i get to hear songs and tunes that I like!!


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Subject: RE: BS: The best hobby
From: Charcloth
Date: 08 May 02 - 07:18 AM

I just like to see folks smile cause they enjoyed the song


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Subject: RE: BS: The best hobby
From: Bobert
Date: 08 May 02 - 07:48 AM

Well, having not played for money since 1970, I can truthfully say that playing music is my best hobby. But I like reelin 'em in too so I keep a fishing rod and tackle box in the trunk of my Toyota.


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Subject: RE: BS: The best hobby
From: Jim Krause
Date: 08 May 02 - 07:54 AM

In a sense, it is showing off, I guess. It does take a certain amount of ego to get up in front of an audience of strangers and present something of deep importance to you, a song, a story, a joke. But it isn't exactly showing off for its own sake. Performing is also a sort of sharing.
Jim


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Subject: RE: BS: The best hobby
From: C-flat
Date: 08 May 02 - 09:06 AM

I've always loved performing, which is odd because I am by nature quite a shy person. I always get chewed up inside if I have to deliver a speech but as long as I can hide behind my guitar I'm o.k. Maybe I should try singing my speeches!


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Subject: RE: BS: The best hobby
From: GUEST,GUEST : Phil Plumb
Date: 08 May 02 - 09:15 AM

As C-flat originally says, most of us do play for nothing! I spend many happy hours, on my own, singing and playing guitar. I like to think that when I "perform", generally without payment, in front of others, then we are both sharing in an enjoyable hobby, without any pressures. Most of all, I find if I need to "Cheer-up", nothing works as well as an hour's session on the guitar, and giving it rucksie.


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Subject: RE: BS: The best hobby
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 08 May 02 - 09:21 AM

I remember at an open stage one time this wild young bloke bounds on stage, plays a tough and confident song, waves goodbye and walks offstage. Afterwards I ran into him and told him I thought he was pretty good - and found that off-stage he was mild and self-effacing and really evbarrassed at the idea of being told he was good.

And I think of someone else I know, painfully shy in all kinds of setings, anything involved talking to strangers. Stick him on a telephone to deal with some kind of transaction in a working setting, and he's transformed into this confident sharp character who knows all the questions and the answers.

And the same kind of things happens in any setting which involves getting into role to carry out a task of some kind. It's one reason why I think it can be a real mistake throwing away the concept of working clothes and uniforms - they can be really empowering in a good way.


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Subject: RE: BS: The best hobby
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 08 May 02 - 09:21 AM

I remember at an open stage one time this wild young bloke bounds on stage, plays a tough and confident song, waves goodbye and walks offstage. Afterwards I ran into him and told him I thought he was pretty good - and found that off-stage he was mild and self-effacing and really embarrassed at the idea of being told he was good.

And I think of someone else I know, painfully shy in all kinds of settings, anything involved talking to strangers. Stick him on a telephone to deal with some kind of transaction in a working setting, and he's transformed into this confident sharp character who knows all the questions and the answers.

And the same kind of things happens in any setting which involves getting into role to carry out a task of some kind. It's one reason why I think it can be a real mistake throwing away the concept of working clothes and uniforms - they can be really empowering in a good way.


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Subject: RE: BS: The best hobby
From: Kim C
Date: 08 May 02 - 10:16 AM

I play for money, and I play for free. And I play when no one's around. Playing for money sometimes, it's like, ohmagawd, this is too much fun, and they're Paying Me to do this. It's too good to be true.

Usually it is, because they money's spent before it ever gets to my pocket. ;-) Tires, strings, shots for the dogs, you name it.

I have lots of hobbies, though, so I never get burned out on any one of them. A couple of them make me some pocket money, so it works out pretty well.

Most of the time, though, the greatest reward is being thanked for sharing. :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: The best hobby
From: Amos
Date: 08 May 02 - 05:24 PM

ANd, Kim, I'd like to add you play damn well!

When I was younger, the egoism was more a part of it, I think, than it is lately; everyone thrives on a little admiration, and a little can go a really long way, but it has become less important than the other part.

Songs, to me, are very...what's the word?...condensed messages; if you really tell the tale of Lord Lovell or the Golden Vanity with conviction, your listener, willy-nilly, will be immersed in a holgram of history, and will feel the air of ancient London or hear the screams of alst-sea pirates as he puts the song together. When you do that for someone, you are handing him a huge piece of his heart, as a legatee of all the human centuries on Earth, that he might not have had access to otherwise. It enricheth the spirit to hear a good song becasuse of the amzing dimensions that can be folded up inside a bunch of words wrapped in three or four chords, but song with the full intention to communicate. It's a damn miracle, practically.


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