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BS: let's be friends...

Amergin 03 May 02 - 04:00 PM
Troll 03 May 02 - 04:15 PM
Pseudolus 03 May 02 - 04:19 PM
Clinton Hammond 03 May 02 - 04:33 PM
GUEST,A friend 03 May 02 - 04:39 PM
gnu 03 May 02 - 04:56 PM
Lonesome EJ 03 May 02 - 05:00 PM
katlaughing 03 May 02 - 05:04 PM
catspaw49 03 May 02 - 05:09 PM
Amos 03 May 02 - 05:30 PM
harpmaker 03 May 02 - 05:40 PM
GUEST,A friend 03 May 02 - 05:42 PM
CarolC 03 May 02 - 06:12 PM
Kernow John 03 May 02 - 06:18 PM
CapriUni 03 May 02 - 06:42 PM
SharonA 03 May 02 - 06:57 PM
Áine 03 May 02 - 07:16 PM
SINSULL 03 May 02 - 08:28 PM
Big Mick 03 May 02 - 10:26 PM
Celtic Soul 03 May 02 - 10:44 PM
GUEST,Mudlark sans cookie... 03 May 02 - 11:26 PM
Amergin 04 May 02 - 11:07 AM
Rick Fielding 04 May 02 - 11:33 AM
bflat 04 May 02 - 11:38 AM
GUEST,mg 04 May 02 - 04:26 PM
kendall 04 May 02 - 05:26 PM
Amos 04 May 02 - 06:01 PM
Charley Noble 04 May 02 - 08:26 PM
kendall 04 May 02 - 08:27 PM
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GUEST,.gargoyle 05 May 02 - 12:16 AM
hesperis 05 May 02 - 12:57 AM
Bullfrog Jones 05 May 02 - 06:19 AM
Amos 06 May 02 - 09:48 AM
GUEST 06 May 02 - 10:46 AM
Liz the Squeak 06 May 02 - 04:57 PM
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Subject: let's be friends...
From: Amergin
Date: 03 May 02 - 04:00 PM

does it it get any easier hearing those words? does one become more immune to the pain and the heart break? how do you deal with it? here i am trying to keep my voice steady on the phones with customers...and at times failing miserably...it is as though the laughter has faded my eyes...the laughter that we shared has come to nothing...faded with the morning mist.....jesus christ nevermind...


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Subject: RE: BS: let's be friends...
From: Troll
Date: 03 May 02 - 04:15 PM

No. It never does. But time heals if we will let it and new loves and laughters are waiting to be discovered. When you are ready to begin that journey of discovery, they will be waiting.
Until then, know that there are those who care and will help when you can accept it.

troll


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Subject: RE: BS: let's be friends...
From: Pseudolus
Date: 03 May 02 - 04:19 PM

Unfortunately it doesn't get easier. How much you hurt is directly related to how much you are willing to open up. You can't experience the highs without risking the lows. I'm sorry you are sad right now. There's one other thing that doesn't change, it always gets better.

Hang in there,
Frank


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Subject: RE: BS: let's be friends...
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 03 May 02 - 04:33 PM

You don't go through the hardships of an ocean voyage to make friends... You can make friends at home!

-Eric The Viking-


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Subject: RE: BS: let's be friends...
From: GUEST,A friend
Date: 03 May 02 - 04:39 PM

Yes, it does get easier, slowly for sure, but it does

It's the most overused phrase, but it's true: "time heals"

Look after yourself


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Subject: RE: BS: let's be friends...
From: gnu
Date: 03 May 02 - 04:56 PM

Hey man.... buck up. Please. When I read that, it sent chills up and down my spine. Been there, done that, as most of us have. You gotta be strong here, bud, at least for all the 'Cats that care about you, and I'm rather certain there are a lot of them. It's gonna hurt and you know only time will heal it, so just hang on... please. Have you got someone to vent with ?


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Subject: RE: BS: let's be friends...
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 03 May 02 - 05:00 PM

Amergin, call up a good friend, have a few beers, and listen to some good Blues.


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Subject: RE: BS: let's be friends...
From: katlaughing
Date: 03 May 02 - 05:04 PM

Nathandarlin'...I am sorry to hear this, but all of the trite platitudes are right...it's better to learn it now, than later....better to have loved and lost than to never have loved at all...lots of fish in the sea...time does heal...there's someone better out there for you, and, as the others have said, we are here for you and we care and you can take that to the bank!

Holler if you need to, by PM etc. and take some advice which I've been hearing a lot, lately, it really helps: don't forget to breathe...luvyakat


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Subject: RE: BS: let's be friends...
From: catspaw49
Date: 03 May 02 - 05:09 PM

Ah 'Gin Boy...........Second time around ain't it? I don't think it gets any easier and I've been through it a few times myself as well. I gave up on the whole thing when I was 30 or so and just tried to enjoy whatever company I was with for however long we each enjoyed ourselves. Made life a lot easier. And then one day I quite accidentally met this woman who had given up too. I didn't know that at the time, but what I did know was that all of the other things had led up to her. Maybe they all happened for a reason....and maybe that had nothing to do with it at all.

What I am sure of is that at this point in my life I look back and know that I would never have been as happy, as in love, and as fulfilled as I am now with anyone but Karen. I dunno' how the stuff works......Don't really care.........just happy that in our case it did.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: let's be friends...
From: Amos
Date: 03 May 02 - 05:30 PM

Keep breathing, pal. I can promise you one thing -- no, two: there is a light at the end of the tunnel; and you can save a lot of time but noticing that the incomprehensible doesn't get any less so just because you go over it a few times; easier to noticve when something is incomprehensible and spare the struggle. And maybe, take her up on her offer; there's plenty of laughter in mere friendship if its honest. But only when you're ready.

Some things that also help survive: noticing times in the past and times in the future (that you are fairly certain of) can unstick you. Focus on being there and breathing without resistance, trying to get a little better at it each time.

Do things somewhere different that you can enjoy or at least get involved in.

Practicing putting your attention on her intentionally, and then taking it off her intentionally -- even iof only for a few seconds.

There _will_ be more laughter in your life. Amergin. I promise.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: let's be friends...
From: harpmaker
Date: 03 May 02 - 05:40 PM

Good advice above. I was devistated when it happend to me,(lost the missus & 2 kids) nobody could take her place (so I thought). But then you find an 'inner strenth' remember that. Then somebody comes up out of the blue, it seems. I met a girl, and she is fantastic. I wonder what I saw in my ex' now! Hang in there buddy,-It gets that little bit easier every day. John.


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Subject: RE: BS: let's be friends...
From: GUEST,A friend
Date: 03 May 02 - 05:42 PM

This has been posted a few time at the cat before, and it's best if you know the music for it, but even without, it might help, because it's true!

Another Train

The beginning is now,
it will always be.
You say you lost your chance,
then fate brought you defeat.
But that means nothing,
you look so sad.
You've been listening to those,
who say you missed your chance.

There's another train,
there always is.
Maybe the next, one is yours,
get up and climb aboard,
another train.

You may feel your done,
but there's no such thing.
Although your standing on your own,
your own breath is king.
The beginning is now,
don't turn around.
for regrets about mistakes,
they will only drain.

We crawl in the dark sometimes,
we think too much.
We fill our heads with the craziest things,
that only break our hearts.
I know you've seen,
what this earth can do.
When it's dragging down another load,
that's worrysome for you.

I know it's hard,
we can feel confused.
We can cram ourselves with it all,
'til we feel we cannot move.
Building worlds,
that don't exist.
Imagination sometimes plays,
the worst tricks.

There's another train,
there always is.
Maybe the next, one is yours,
get up and climb aboard.

There's another train,
there always is,
Maybe the next, one is yours,
get up and climb aboard,
another train.

Lyrics and tune: Pete Morton


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Subject: RE: BS: let's be friends...
From: CarolC
Date: 03 May 02 - 06:12 PM

Each time is as difficult as the last. Nothing you can do about that. But as time goes by, the hurt gets less, and eventually you feel whole again (that is, if you felt whole before you met her... if you didn't, you need to get whole before you try to do it again).

I'm really sorry to hear about your situation. I'm going to give you something that a dear friend of mine gave me one time when I was going through something similar to that. It's from my late friend, LR Mole, (who seems to be on my mind today).

No one does any of this well, you know...Look, if everything teaches us anything, it's that what we think of as hope and the future is really an ever-changing present: the part we're around for. Even music demands one more measure, and then there's always one more echo. But of course it's painful as hell. That's how you know it's your story and not someone else's. One foot, other foot, and don't stop breathing.

--LR Mole


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Subject: RE: BS: let's be friends...
From: Kernow John
Date: 03 May 02 - 06:18 PM

Like Spaw says, you go through some real hurting times and just when you've given up, bang, someone comes along. You probably aint even trying but you find yourself tied up and you don't ever want to break free.
Hope you heal soon.
John


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Subject: RE: BS: let's be friends...
From: CapriUni
Date: 03 May 02 - 06:42 PM

{{{{{{{ Amergin }}}}}}}


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Subject: RE: BS: let's be friends...
From: SharonA
Date: 03 May 02 - 06:57 PM

No trite clichés here, just hugs. I posted to the thread in the Annexe, too. I'm really sorry to hear that this happened, Amergin. I know you tried so hard.

Sharon


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Subject: RE: BS: let's be friends...
From: Áine
Date: 03 May 02 - 07:16 PM

Dearest Amergin,

As you can see from the posts in response to your plea, you're in good company when it comes to heartbreak . . . myself included, definitely.

Yes, it hurts; but, it will get better. Here's a great big hug for you, and some advice that's really helped me to get over those big bad breakup bumps -- 'Forgive to forget'. Seems too easy and cliché at first, but in a few days/weeks/months, give it a good think. You will move on, but moving forward is even better. You can do it, and become an even better person for all the trouble and pain you're going through now.

And if you ever want to talk, you know where I am -- and where all your Mudcat friends are -- and we're here for you.

One day at a time, dear friend - Áine


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Subject: RE: BS: let's be friends...
From: SINSULL
Date: 03 May 02 - 08:28 PM

No cliches here, either. It hurts. I'm sorry.
Mary


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Subject: RE: BS: let's be friends...
From: Big Mick
Date: 03 May 02 - 10:26 PM

mlane@accn.org. If you want to just shoot the breeze, holler, talk shit, cry, ........... whatever, then email me your telly and the call will be on me. Long as you want.

If not, that's fine. Just know that you have many friends here, even if they aren't 3D. I am concerned about you.

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: let's be friends...
From: Celtic Soul
Date: 03 May 02 - 10:44 PM

Amergin, you don't know me from Adam, but, I feel for you. Your friends here have good and sage advice, and they obviously care about you a great deal...take them up on the shoulders and the phone calls. It helps. I think anyone who has been there can attest to that.

But, here's something I did not see in the other responses...if you are in too much pain to deal with the thought of "friends" right now, consider saying something like this:

"I'll be your friend when I am ready and get past the hurt."

You are under no obligation to instantly go from lovers to friends. Allow yourself time to heal, then take another look at it.


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Subject: RE: BS: let's be friends...
From: GUEST,Mudlark sans cookie...
Date: 03 May 02 - 11:26 PM

Amergin...Just wanted to add my sympathies...no easy way out...but you are dealing with the pain...a first, and necessary step to healing....I'm holding a good thot for you... nancy


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Subject: RE: BS: let's be friends...
From: Amergin
Date: 04 May 02 - 11:07 AM

thank you....no idea how much this means to me...


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Subject: RE: BS: let's be friends...
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 04 May 02 - 11:33 AM

Oh boy...have I been there. At first it's like a knife and then a dull ache which you think will never go away.....it does though.

Hang tough buddy.

Rick


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Subject: RE: BS: let's be friends...
From: bflat
Date: 04 May 02 - 11:38 AM

Dear Nathan,

Sorry. Don't be afraid to mourn; don't hold back; it is a healthy emotion that will help you immeasurably. You are a nice guy. Believe it.

Ellen


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Subject: RE: BS: let's be friends...
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 04 May 02 - 04:26 PM

That is really sad...once you get over the pain, and start to connect again, I think it is really really important to know what the woman really wants in terms of permance. I suspect you are the kind that loves deeply and permanently, and are not looking for a series of relationships....you can't assume anything these days...you have to ask..she should ask also...so you don't get shocked when she says she is thinking of going to graduate school in Barbados see you around...you have to eliminate those women from consideration, although they would be fine for someone with similar inclinations....it will still be risky because you might have a few more trips down the garden path but you will have eliminated the major percentage of the risk...and partings will undoubtedly be respectful, if painful...(sounds like this one was, hopefully...) mg


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Subject: RE: BS: let's be friends...
From: kendall
Date: 04 May 02 - 05:26 PM

Everyone told me the pain would pass; and, I thought, "How the hell do you know? You cant possibly feel this pain." No one ever felt this much pain. Well, I've been wrong a couple of times in my life (Voted for Nixon) and this was one of those times. It has been 4 years and, guess what? the pain DOES pass. The worst thing you can do is to jump into another relationship because what you need is not there. If you go into another relationship right away it can only be to take, and it cant last. After 4 years, I've reached the point that, if something comes along, fine; if not, fine. That's where you must be to know you have moved on. No number of friends can replace the closeness you are missing, but, without friends, the loss of that would be unbearable. We're with you man.


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Subject: RE: BS: let's be friends...
From: Amos
Date: 04 May 02 - 06:01 PM

Ya know, it is a ponderous peculiarity of our weird and wonderful species that a small handull of sounds like that, sprinkled across a cathode ray tube or scootingthrough a phone line, can feel so bad -- like someone left their dirk in between your ribs, morning after morning; but I guess, in some funny way, we have emotional immune systems, just like we have biological ones, and in a similar way the longer term truth is, they not only heal it but learn from it; hence the old saying, "If it doesn't kill ya, it'll make ya stornger...".

Small comfort when you feel like you are fresh dead, I know. But it will come to pass, buddy. It will come to pass.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: let's be friends...
From: Charley Noble
Date: 04 May 02 - 08:26 PM

We nevr do find out WHY and even if we did it wouldn't necessarily be all that helpful, given that the task at hand is to move on, and that takes TIME as folks have said above and SUPPORT from friends. Best of luck from someone you don't know but wishes you well!


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Subject: RE: BS: let's be friends...
From: kendall
Date: 04 May 02 - 08:27 PM

A man can adjust to anything except a stone in his shoe.


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Subject: RE: BS: let's be friends...
From: CapriUni
Date: 04 May 02 - 11:53 PM

and every philosopher is patient -- except for the one with the tootheache.

Just checking back in to see if you've checked in again, Amergin. Glad to see you have.

Hang in there...


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Subject: RE: BS: let's be friends...
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 05 May 02 - 12:16 AM

An old room-mate...after college graduation...met his old, disenfranchised high-school "sweet-heart" and gave her the same line...with the addition of "can't we play tennis once a week?"

A marrage........and three conceptions later....they are till best "friends."

Sincerely
Gargoyle


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Subject: RE: BS: let's be friends...
From: hesperis
Date: 05 May 02 - 12:57 AM

Awwww, Amergin! {{{{{{{{HUG!}}}}}}}}}

Hang in there. It sucks to miss someone in your life at the closeness that you wanted them, and that you thought you had. But know that there are people here who care. And know that if you aren't right for her as a lover, it's because there IS someone better for you out there. It has to be totally right for both people to be totally right. And totally right is what you deserve, not half right, not "ok", and especially not one-sided.

I used to think it was only a matter of two people deciding to stick it out together with caring. I have since discovered that there's a LOT more to it. You need shared goals, shared dreams, much caring and laughter... but above all, there HAS to be that spark. You really have to light each other's fire, or it is just friendship, if even a deep friendship.

If she did that for you, and you didn't do that for her, then I am really sad with you. (And I still miss that closeness with my ex-bf though we kinda went different ways and even though I was innocently falling in love with someone else even while I was going out with him!)

But believe me, you want a relationship where that goes BOTH ways. If it's not with her, it's not with her, and that means there's something even better than you ever dreamed of, just for you. Concentrate on what you want in a relationship, not who you want it with.

Now go have a good cry, and then start building your life again - for yourself this time. And know that we're all rootin' for ya.


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Subject: RE: BS: let's be friends...
From: Bullfrog Jones
Date: 05 May 02 - 06:19 AM

Celtic Soul has it right -- that 'Friend' thing is another way to keep on getting stabbed through the heart. Be careful. I can only say that when it happened to me a couple of years ago, I got at least one really good song out of it and met a woman who is so much more right for me (and who sings divine harmonies!)

Good luck.

BJ


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Subject: RE: BS: let's be friends...
From: Amos
Date: 06 May 02 - 09:48 AM

Geeze, Bullfrog, how about a couple of cuts for the World Mudcat Sampler CD, then, eh?

A


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Subject: RE: BS: let's be friends...
From: GUEST
Date: 06 May 02 - 10:46 AM

...better the "let's be friends" avenue than the "I don't ever want to see you again" dead-end. At least you're still driving and not broke down with a blown engine waiting for someone to steal your rims.

If you're not ready to give up the race, then take this opportunity to renew your efforts. Maybe she'll have a change of heart when she sees what a great guy you are compared to the competition. Stranger things have happened.

If it's true love, and the "let's be friends" ploy is not just a ruse, you'll be thankful that at least you get some contact. Better than being cut off cold turkey.

When she left, she took part of you with her - a part that you can't ever get back. The hole she left can't be filled - maybe it can be patched. But for now, drive around it, and use it to reroute your inner highway.

Erect a sign where the hole is, "something along the lines of "this is where my car fell in," with an arrow pointing to it, and pay homage to it as often as you feel necessary. Look at it as an opportunity to demonstrate your ability to overcome obstacles.

Draw some inspiration from it and use it to create something artistic - like a song, or a painting, or a poem, whatever. Pain is a great motivator; just listen to the blues. What don't kill you only makes you stronger...not to reduce your feelings to a platitude, but it's true.


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Subject: RE: BS: let's be friends...
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 06 May 02 - 04:57 PM

As long as when they say that, they actually mean that, rather than hoping you'll never contact them again.

It usually does stop hurting after a while, but you have to treat it like a lost tooth. You know it's going to hurt like hell but you just have to poke your tongue into the hole. One day, you realise it didn't hurt so much and you push a little harder until it hurts again. Then you know how far you can go and where it will stop hurting.

The sorest point is when you try to make the overtures of friendship - a relationship on a different level, but despite saying that is what they want, they block you out. That's the bit that hurts the most.

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: let's be friends...
From: catspaw49
Date: 06 May 02 - 06:37 PM

Any updates?


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Subject: RE: BS: let's be friends...
From: Amergin
Date: 07 May 02 - 11:50 AM

True enough, LTS....

She sent me a message the other day listing everything I did wrong...most I already apologised to her.....when I realised I did wrong...those that were wrong though...

some of the things were completely ludicrous...I could not believe it....it was like having another dagger plunged deep into my belly...things like singing in public while we were walking...food fights in restauraunts....playing with my crawdad and talking to it at a fancy place once...and other things like that...

the one truly thing I did wrong I think was putting too much faith into her heartbeat....too much faith in that it was beating in tune with mine....


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Subject: RE: BS: let's be friends...
From: Bullfrog Jones
Date: 07 May 02 - 11:56 AM

Amos, some of my songs (the sadder ones!) have been described variously as enough "to make strong men weep", and "to bring tears to a glass eye". Think you can take it? *BG*


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Subject: RE: BS: let's be friends...
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 07 May 02 - 12:04 PM

Ouch - the list of wrongs.... not a good sign I'm afraid.... Mind you, if your crawdad is what I think it is, then shame on you, that sort of thing is best done behind closed doors!

Try making a list of hers and see how it compares? Don't send it to her though, it won't improve your relationship or your chances of staying friends. When you've done that, make a list of the good things. Then you have to compare the two lists and make a serious choice if this person is actually still worth pursuing a relationship on what ever level with. Sometimes the answer is not what you expect it to be, even if you've had known each other for 10 - 20 years. Sometimes you just have to step back and admit that it's going to be a while.

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: let's be friends...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 May 02 - 12:16 PM

Amergin - Man, I've been through this one so many times...since I was about 7 years old. My central faith from grade 1 on was that the crux to life was human love between a man and a woman. I believed it with all my heart, and I suffered the miseries of the damned over it. I considered killing myself various times. Anything to end the pain.

I now think I was being unrealistic, and that happiness is something that comes from within, not from a relationship with one other human being, but if someone had said that to me back then it would have meant nothing to me! Absolutely nothing.

All I can say is...I lost her...I lost her again...I lost her again...and again...and again...and I'm still here. So hang in there and believe in yourself.

The things she's accusing you of...well, people say silly things sometimes when they're in a lot of pain and they're not thinking straight. It will pass.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: let's be friends...
From: kendall
Date: 07 May 02 - 02:34 PM

And they seldom tell the truth. It's easier to dwell on stupid stuff like food fights. It goes much deeper than that. My ex and I tried very hard to be friends, but, that kept us both stuck for years. When she re married and moved to another state, that's when I started to heal, and I'm now glad she did that. It hurt like hell for a while though.Maybe some dAY you will thank her.


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Subject: RE: BS: let's be friends...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 May 02 - 04:45 PM

Yeah. People sometimes need to realize that one chapter has ended before they can get on with the next one.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: let's be friends...
From: Amos
Date: 07 May 02 - 05:03 PM

I am personally persuaded that gathering up the little pictures of how wrong you were about doing this or that is just specious rationalization. What you really did wrong in each of those instances was not realize what she was thinking. By missing her whole mindset you left her holding a lot of unacvknowledged thoughts which infuriates anyone, at some level! When they start in with what you shoulda known and how inconsiderate this was, or that was, and its maybe the best they can do to try and say that they really are sore because they wanted their wee soul understood some, and it wasn't. It's not the words out of the mouth ya need to notice -- it's the feeling behind the words, where the hurt lies. Handling the wrong thing (apologizing for the superficial items) won't change things.

In fact at this point it is possible nothing will, except a conversation so honest that it has a really low probability of ever surfacing in the bed of desperate alteration, fractured falsifications and fanciful explaining that has taken the place of honesty.

Given that, walk away with your hands in your pockets and start building a better life for yourself, find your inner strengths and draw on them, lift up your chin and start finding things to grin about.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: let's be friends...
From: CarolC
Date: 07 May 02 - 06:43 PM

Seems to me, the fact that she sent you a list of what was wrong with you after breaking up with you, shows what sort of a person you were involved with. Sounds to me like you're a lot better off without that one.


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Subject: RE: BS: let's be friends...
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 07 May 02 - 07:24 PM

It's very easy to say after the fact that you were better off without that person. It doesn't make it hurt less, and it doesn't make it true. When someone hurts your friend, your reaction is to support that friend regardless of your opinions earlier. The person who says 'you're better off without him/her' is quite often the person who encouraged you in the first place and said that you were really good for each other.

Keep the communications open, as long as possible, if you really do want to remain in a friendly relationship. If it's too hard, then you have the option to walk away knowing you at least tried.

Take care.

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: let's be friends...
From: SharonA
Date: 07 May 02 - 07:29 PM

"...singing in public while we were walking...food fights in restauraunts....playing with my crawdad and talking to it at a fancy place once..." Gee, Amergin, I like you better all the time! *G* I'm trying to imagine these food fights; was she throwing bread, too? After all, it does take at least two to have a food fight, doesn't it? Is she embarrassed now about something she enjoyed then? Or was she an observer of a fight between you and some friends?

Either way, I agree with Carol: giving you the silent treatment while you were together, and then sending you a message listing things you "did wrong" including things you'd already apologized for – not talking to you face-to-face, but silently sending a message – speaks volumes about what she did wrong, doesn't it? My dictionary says "compatible" means "capable of existing together in harmony", and you can't harmonize with a person who ain't singin' the melody! It's my understanding that she had a problem with "opening up", possibly related to medication she was taking... and her attempt to turn that around, to say that you were wrong to do something she couldn't tell you she didn't like, is her problem too!

But back to food... have you seen the book by Joost Elffers and Saxon Freymann called "Play With Your Food"? If not, I have a feeling you'd like it! Here it is on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1556706308/102-2102195-1432100

Here are some magnets based on the photography in the book: http://shop.store.yahoo.com/fridgedoor/playwityourf1.html

Another great Freymann/Elffers book is "How Are You Peeling? Foods with Moods" (some great photos here): http://www.scholastic.com/titles/peeling/

...All that was just to say that if this person who says she wants to be friends, and then sends you a very unfriendly message, can't appreciate your sense of fun, there are plenty of people out here who do! So find 'em, round 'em up, and break out the crawdads for a gabfest!


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Subject: RE: BS: let's be friends...
From: SharonA
Date: 07 May 02 - 07:32 PM

Oops! Sorry; I thought I'd ended those italics after I quoted you!


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Subject: RE: BS: let's be friends...
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 07 May 02 - 08:33 PM

It wasn't meant to be Amergin. I went through six reasonably lengthy domestic situations, and countless other brief relationships before I met Heather. I had reached my forties and felt I'd never have a completely stress-free relationship, and then "bingo", it happens.

You'll find that 'someone'.....and you'll both know it...right from the get-go.

....and who knows? It might be with someone who ALSO likes to sing in public!

Rick


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Subject: RE: BS: let's be friends...
From: kendall
Date: 07 May 02 - 09:19 PM

My ex and I used to walk down the street singing "We're off to see the wizard" and doing that little step that goes with it. Sure we got some funny looks...so what?


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Subject: RE: BS: let's be friends...
From: bflat
Date: 07 May 02 - 09:52 PM

Nathan, she would not have given you a list if she didn't want you to think about things. Wait and try again.

Ellen


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