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Women in Irish Music

eaferguson 31 Jan 02 - 12:25 PM
GUEST 31 Jan 02 - 03:18 PM
Alice 31 Jan 02 - 03:27 PM
Matthew Edwards 31 Jan 02 - 03:31 PM
eaferguson 31 Jan 02 - 04:46 PM
Sorcha 31 Jan 02 - 04:51 PM
MartinRyan 31 Jan 02 - 05:11 PM
Matthew Edwards 31 Jan 02 - 06:13 PM
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Subject: Women in Irish Music
From: eaferguson
Date: 31 Jan 02 - 12:25 PM

I was wondering if anyone out there had any reading recommendations on women in Irish music history. I know there's lots and lots of material available on the history in general, but haven't been able to find much on women's roles.

Any ideas?


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Subject: RE: Women in Irish Music
From: GUEST
Date: 31 Jan 02 - 03:18 PM

It' easier to point out bits of history of Irish music by women than to find out much about the women who did it. See Jorunal of the Irish Folk Song Society for collected folk music and history by women.


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Subject: RE: Women in Irish Music
From: Alice
Date: 31 Jan 02 - 03:27 PM

From the 20th century, the autobiography of Mary O'Hara, THE SCENT OF THE ROSES. You can get it from libaries or used book websites.


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Subject: RE: Women in Irish Music
From: Matthew Edwards
Date: 31 Jan 02 - 03:31 PM

A good place to start would be to contact the Irish Traditional Music Archive, but you will have to write to them as they do not answer online requests. There is a website for the ITMA Irish Traditional Music Archive which publishes a useful guide on studying Irish music Studying Irish Music

The Irish World Music Centre at the University of Limerick carries out a lot of research into various aspects of Irish and traditional music - you may be able to contact them for information, and possibly details of current reserch projects and theses. See their site atIWMC

The University of Cork has an online page of links about the role of women in music, but this is not especially concerned with traditional music. See UCC: Women in music

Good luck, and by the way I tried a google search for "women irish music" - not very helpful, but a lot about Cherish the Ladies!


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Subject: RE: Women in Irish Music
From: eaferguson
Date: 31 Jan 02 - 04:46 PM

Thanks for all the pointers. I did a some research on this once upon a time, and had to dig through a whole lot to find little nuggets of info. I had been hoping someone had written something since...

The Mary O'Hara book sounds interesting, though. Thanks again.


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Subject: RE: Women in Irish Music
From: Sorcha
Date: 31 Jan 02 - 04:51 PM

I gather you don't really want Current Irish ladies? Such as Mary Black, Eileen Ivers, Natalie McMaster, Connie Dover, etc..........


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Subject: RE: Women in Irish Music
From: MartinRyan
Date: 31 Jan 02 - 05:11 PM

A basic starting point, with some info on both contemporary and historic figures, would be Vallely's "Companion to Irish Traditional Music". I'm assuming you're thinking of traditional music in particular.

Regards.


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Subject: RE: Women in Irish Music
From: Matthew Edwards
Date: 31 Jan 02 - 06:13 PM

Martin, I looked in Vallely's Companion, and I'd agree with you that it does have a lot of articles about individual musicians such as Lucy Farr, Bess Cronin, Róise na nAmhrán, Maggie Murphy, Julia Clifford amongst others. However there is no entry for "women" between wire recording and wood block, nor does the extensive bibliography appear to include any indications of previous studies in this area. I would imagine that somebody somewhere has done or is doing some research that would be helpful, but as far as I can see this is new territory, so eaferguson here is your opportunity!

It would be very interesting to discover how women such as Sarah Makem, and Sarah and Rita Keane, have contributed to preserving the Irish tradition - and to find out how far back in time this goes.

UCD has a women's studies programme UCD: WERRC and I think that Angela de Burca has done some folklore research which could be of interest (off topic do read her book The Burning of Bridget Cleary).


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