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Tune Req: Eibhli Gheal Chiuin ni Chearbhaill

lamarca 30 Jan 02 - 04:04 PM
MartinRyan 30 Jan 02 - 04:54 PM
Roger in Sheffield 30 Jan 02 - 05:18 PM
Phil Cooper 30 Jan 02 - 06:07 PM
GUEST,chrisj 30 Jan 02 - 09:06 PM
MartinRyan 31 Jan 02 - 02:57 AM
lamarca 31 Jan 02 - 09:44 AM
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GUEST,Martin Ryan 01 Feb 02 - 09:16 AM
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Subject: Eibhlí Gheal Chiúin ní Chearbhaill
From: lamarca
Date: 30 Jan 02 - 04:04 PM

I've heard this Irish air played by John Martyn with a lot of electric instrumentation, and have been told it's on Chieftains 3. Does anyone have a transcription of it, and info on its origins? Also, how would the Gaelic be translated into English?


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Eibhlí Gheal Chiúin ní Chearbhaill
From: MartinRyan
Date: 30 Jan 02 - 04:54 PM

"Bright, quiet, Eileen Carroll", give or take a few hair-splits, is the translation. I don't know the tune, offhand.

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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Eibhlí Gheal Chiúin ní Chearbhaill
From: Roger in Sheffield
Date: 30 Jan 02 - 05:18 PM

It is indeed track 3 on Chieftains three followed by Delahunty's hornpipe, played on a concertina I think


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Eibhlí Gheal Chiúin ní Chearbhaill
From: Phil Cooper
Date: 30 Jan 02 - 06:07 PM

Dick Gaughan also plays it as the break to "Flo'ors O' the Forest" on the Parallel Lines album he did with Andy Irvine. I think John Martyn was just using a fuzz tone played through Leslie speakers, with a bass droning in the background. Sorry, I don't know where the tune is notated either, it's a captivating one. I'll check my tune collections real quick and see if I can find one.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Eibhlí Gheal Chiúin ní Chearbhaill
From: GUEST,chrisj
Date: 30 Jan 02 - 09:06 PM

Martin, would 'Fair and Gentle Eily Carroll' be closer to the underlying meaning? Yours seems a little too literal to me.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Eibhlí Gheal Chiúin ní Chearbhaill
From: MartinRyan
Date: 31 Jan 02 - 02:57 AM

Chrisj

Yes, indeed. I was in a very literal mood when I answered!

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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Eibhlí Gheal Chiúin ní Chearbhaill
From: lamarca
Date: 31 Jan 02 - 09:44 AM

The reason I'm interested in this tune is that it seems to be a minor/modal variation to the tune to which Margaret MacArthur set "Them Stars". I'd like to send her a setting just for amusement... If any of you have heard both tunes, could you tell me if I'm imagining things?


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Eibhlí Gheal Chiúin ní Chearbhaill
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Feb 02 - 07:09 AM

is this the same as "Is fada liom uaim í" (one of the songs by that name)?


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Eibhlí Gheal Chiúin ní Chearbhaill
From: GUEST,Martin Ryan
Date: 01 Feb 02 - 09:16 AM

Guest

The same thought struck me.... but I think its usually Máire Gheal Ciúin Ní Chuileanain..". Still there's got to be more than one ....

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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Eibhlí Gheal Chiúin ní Chearbhaill
From: GUEST,Martin Ryan
Date: 02 Feb 02 - 07:09 AM

...or Molly...

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