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Subject: Good Night Gracie From: 53 Date: 23 Jan 02 - 09:45 AM does anybody like the 1950's reruns on TV? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Good Night Gracie From: kendall Date: 23 Jan 02 - 09:55 AM The Honeymooners is one of the best series ever. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Good Night Gracie From: 53 Date: 23 Jan 02 - 09:57 AM yes you're right and i love it, i also love the andy grifith show even though it starterd in 1960, and it was a run off from the danny thomas show which aired inthe 50's. BOB |
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Subject: RE: BS: Good Night Gracie From: SharonA Date: 23 Jan 02 - 11:43 AM Absolutely! I love those old shows! In fact, there was a sitcom starring George Burns and Gracie Allen; does anyone remember the name of it? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Good Night Gracie From: SharonA Date: 23 Jan 02 - 11:47 AM (P.S. – I seem to remember the name as being something less mundane than "The George Burns and Gracie Allen Show", but I could be wrong!) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Good Night Gracie From: gnu Date: 23 Jan 02 - 12:15 PM Kendall mentioned The Honeymooners. I wish they would put The Jackie Gleason Show back on. My gosh, I used to roar with laughter... "mmmm, that's goooood coffee." I think he was a bit too risque for the TV times. Of course, nowadays, he might be considered too tame. I just watched a female standup comic say f*** at least fifty times in less than five minutes on Kenny Robinson's show called After Hours on the Canadian Comedy Network. Last night there was a documentary on the ten best comedy shows of all time... I Love Lucy was their top pick... mine too. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Good Night Gracie From: Dicho (Frank Staplin) Date: 23 Jan 02 - 01:52 PM The Bickersons, with Alice Faye and Phil Harris, was one of my favorites. Of course Fred and Gracie, Lucy and Desi, Gleason and Meadows (Art Carney was a superb third member of the team) and Andy Griffith. I can watch these reruns, but I don't follow a single one of the new situation comedies. The old detective series being rerun also catch my attention. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Good Night Gracie From: SharonA Date: 23 Jan 02 - 01:56 PM Then, of course, there's "Alfred Hitchcock Presents". |
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Subject: RE: BS: Good Night Gracie From: SINSULL Date: 23 Jan 02 - 02:22 PM I remember thinking George Burns was creepy - he had hidden cameras and watched (spied on ) everyone in the house including Gracie. Now Gracie was funny. Somewhere I have a collection of humor records narrated by George Burns. Any interest for the auction? My favorites - Oh Susanna, Private Secretary, My Little Margie. Wonder how they would play today... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Good Night Gracie From: 53 Date: 23 Jan 02 - 02:36 PM the honeymooners comes on on tv land now, but i'm not sure what day and time. also leave it to beaver was a great show. BOB |
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Subject: RE: BS: Good Night Gracie From: Murph10566 Date: 23 Jan 02 - 03:18 PM It seems to me the old show was simply called "Burns & Allen"... I remember the announcer was Harry VonZell (sp ?) My Dad was always crazy about Jack Benny, too ! Is there any wannabe (or otherwise) golfer who hasn't used Norton's classic line on addressing the ball: "Hello Ball." ? Other memorable ones: "A string of Poloponies" and "Can it Core a Apple ?" Any others ? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Good Night Gracie From: 53 Date: 23 Jan 02 - 03:44 PM the phil silvers show. BOB |
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Subject: RE: BS: Good Night Gracie From: Bat Goddess Date: 23 Jan 02 - 04:55 PM I'll put in a vote for Phil Silvers, too. I'm having trouble separating late '50s from early '60s shows in my head. My favorite early '60s (1961, I believe) was "Thriller" hosted by Boris Karloff. I even remember episode titles -- and I was 12 at the time. Linn |
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Subject: RE: BS: Good Night Gracie From: Bat Goddess Date: 23 Jan 02 - 04:56 PM Of course, then there's "My Little Margie" and "The Ann Sothern Show" and "December Bride" -- all watched mostly when I was home sick from school. Linn |
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Subject: RE: BS: Good Night Gracie From: beadie Date: 23 Jan 02 - 05:00 PM "Our Miss Brooks" with Eve Arden as a high school teacher and (a very young) Dick Crenna as a rather dim-witted student. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Good Night Gracie From: Dicho (Frank Staplin) Date: 23 Jan 02 - 05:09 PM Art Carney who played Norton made a children's record called "All I want for Christmas is a Doodle-y-boop" (Can't spell it without getting out the old record) which I taped for the grandchildren. I don't know if it has been re-issued. One of the best kids records! And Archie Bunker... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Good Night Gracie From: gnu Date: 23 Jan 02 - 06:06 PM Although I did/do like the crassness of The Jackie Gleason Show, if you can call it crassness... it's not for kids... I look at the Steve Allen shows with awe. He was far ahead of his time. He shaped a lot of American humour... brought it to more distinguished and cerebric (sp ?) levels. Although, he did the sight gags, especially with Cid Caesar, rather, uh, well. Steve, as opposed to the young lady I mentioned earlier, was a true funnyman. He spent great efforts in his last years trying to appeal to young comics to be funny instead of vulgar, as has been "hip" lately. He actually felt that vulgar humour was demeaning to not only the public, but to the humour, and should be avoided. Some would call this being a prude. I would call it being true to humour. Am I wrong here ? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Good Night Gracie From: catspaw49 Date: 23 Jan 02 - 06:31 PM Yes and no gnu.........Steve was no slouch at the double entendre stuff himself and although not directly "vulgar" the intent was the same. He once called a place called "Big A Cleaners" and asked them how much it would cost to clean his big A. But if I disagree with the great Steverino in any way, that is where I would base my disagreement. However, there is a difference between "dirty words" for their own sake and when used to paint a verbal picture....to put you exactly into the place, the scene, the time, the people. THAT is for me the difference between so many young and old comedians, comedians of all generations. The joke tellers are a dime a dozen, always have been. But those who can transport you to a moment and use the words to "phonographically" reproduce it......that's different. And the very best of that type have a couple of other attributes that set them apart as well. One is the ability to make you laugh and cry almost at the same time. It's a humor based in such truth that the thing that makes it funny can alternately make it sad. The other is to develop a routine from virtually nothing....improvisation at it's best....and to add to other bits in the same way.....That takes a lot of daring. Lenny Bruce, Richard Pryor, Robin Williams..........For me, it doesn't get any better. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Good Night Gracie From: gnu Date: 23 Jan 02 - 06:46 PM Ah, therein lies the rub. Intent does not equal actual. And it need not to be comical. Take Robin for instance. He calls his penis "Mr. Happy", not "cock". Am I off hear ? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Good Night Gracie From: GUEST,Jaze Date: 23 Jan 02 - 06:54 PM I love Lucy as much as anyone, but give me Gracie Allen any day! She was truly the queen of comedy back then. I wish they were still showing that show in my area. Years ago, I would race home from work to see it at 12mn. Great stress-buster. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Good Night Gracie From: gnu Date: 23 Jan 02 - 06:56 PM Sorry about the pun... it spilled over... especially the one you didn't get. Oh, I've got to stop ! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Good Night Gracie From: catspaw49 Date: 23 Jan 02 - 07:03 PM Gnu, a lack of acknowledgement or not bringing it up does not in any way mean that nausea was not present. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Good Night Gracie From: gnu Date: 23 Jan 02 - 07:05 PM Spaw... got to hit the hey, so... yeah, I know exactly what you're saying and I agree. Thought I might spark some banter by my above comments. "Sometimes, I just say shit to see how it sounds".... George Carlin, "Toledo Window Box". It's an excellent album. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Good Night Gracie From: DougR Date: 23 Jan 02 - 07:14 PM And I'd add Jonathan Winters to that group, Spaw. Dicho: I share your unenthusiasm for current TV situation comedy shows. I thought Jack Benny was very funny, Burns and Allen too. We considered changing the night of our symphony concerts in Beaumont, Texas, on the night Sgt. Bilko with Phil Silvers was on the air. People didn't want to leave their TV sets for a live symphony concert when Sgt. Bilko was on. TV was fairly new then, of course, and everybody was wrapped up in it. DougR |
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Subject: RE: BS: Good Night Gracie From: GUEST,misophist Date: 23 Jan 02 - 08:08 PM How can such things be? You guys almost missed Steve Allen, one of the funniest men in history, and completely missed Ernie Kovacks! It was a great loss to comedy when he died ahead of his time. If it's not too far afield, Jack Benny was much funnier on the radio than he ever was on TV. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Good Night Gracie From: 53 Date: 23 Jan 02 - 09:19 PM ozzie and harriet, was one of the first shows that i saw someone actually playing the guitar, and guess who it was? little ricki nelson. BOB |
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Subject: RE: BS: Good Night Gracie From: kendall Date: 23 Jan 02 - 09:40 PM Ernie Kovacks...anyone remember the NAIROBI TRIO? I read somewhere that the Andy Griffith show is the most popular sit com of all time. Ok, so who's funny? Tim Conway, Red Skelton, Jack Benny (his timing was the best of all) Kramden & Norton.Fish, on the Barney Miller show. Notice, there are no garbage mouths in my list, these guys depended on talent. A friend of mine got me hooked on NYPD Blue, great show, great acting, good stories. I get a kick out of Sipowitz, but, I wouldn't want to work with him. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Good Night Gracie From: 53 Date: 23 Jan 02 - 09:46 PM how about the fugitive, starring David Janseen. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Good Night Gracie From: Bat Goddess Date: 24 Jan 02 - 10:14 AM Oh -- Ernie Kovacs! My inspiration! He did stuff that had never been before, like filming a kaleidoscope. And there are still days I feel my bath tub has similarities to his. ;-) Percy Dovetonsills, the silent guy in the room, what was his name? What a mind! And definitely Steve Allen -- I've always preferred humor that requires cultural knowledge. Just saying a "dirty word" isn't funny. I usually explain to people that I prefer to use the expletive "shit" in Norwegian so as not to offend anyone -- it sounds the same, but it's spelled differently. (skitt) I used to have two cats who were twins -- you couldn't tell them apart except the orange one had a fatter face than the black and white one. "The Fugitive" was '60s. If we're going to do '60s, how about "Dr. Kildare" with Richard Chamberlain and "Stoney Burke" with Jack Lord and Warren Oates? And "The Man From U.N./C.L.E. Linn |
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Subject: RE: BS: Good Night Gracie From: Tiger Date: 24 Jan 02 - 12:47 PM Another Kovacs character - Spiegel the Spongehead. Perhaps an ancestor of SpongeBob SquarePants? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Good Night Gracie From: catspaw49 Date: 24 Jan 02 - 12:48 PM Geez misophist, I thought I talked about both of them up the thread there.........And Bat Goddess, if you like I'd be more than happy to come up out of your drain. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Good Night Gracie From: catspaw49 Date: 24 Jan 02 - 12:50 PM Sorry misophist....It was Steve on this thread and Ernie Kovacs on the other thread..........I'm easily confused and not too bright.......Sorry. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Good Night Gracie From: kendall Date: 24 Jan 02 - 03:07 PM How about the old radio programs? I Love a Mystery. Lux radio theater. The Inner Sanctum The Shadow. Tom Mix Terry and the Pirates. The Green Hornet. Mysterious Traveler. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Good Night Gracie From: Bat Goddess Date: 24 Jan 02 - 03:53 PM What was the game that Ernie Kovacs invented? It was on an audio tape that I just went to find and, of course, didn't show up. Life was a lot simpler back in the days of Edison cylinders. ;-) And "I love the children of France!" (well, you had to be there.) Kendall, what about the radio Sherlock Holmes series (several of them -- Gielgud and Rathbone)? I also have a large collection of the tv Sherlock Holmes series with Ronald Howard. Oh, and "77th Bengal Lancers". "Sergeant Preston of the Mounted Police", "Captain Gallant of the Foreign Legion", "Sky King", "Rin-Tin-Tin", Richard Greene in "Robin Hood" (which was Curmudgeon's great inspiration), "The Buccaneers." Anybody else see the unused tv pilot with Peter Lorre and Vincent Price? -- "The Left Fist of David" -- unfortunately, my copy was loaned to someone and wasn't returned. (Damn!) Linn |