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Subject: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: Lyrical Lady Date: 15 Jan 02 - 03:45 PM My dog has taken to chasing cars. He's three years old and has never done this before. He had a very close call the other day. Is there a way to break him of this .. anyone have any advice? LL |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: GUEST Date: 15 Jan 02 - 03:53 PM I'm tempted to be a smartass and suggest a shorter leash or a higher fence but I gather your dog runs loose. What sort of dog do you have? Some breeds—sight hounds especially—have been bred to chase things. In most breeds, you can overcome the tendancy with careful and regular training. Other breeds will never overcome their instinctual imperative. - Mark |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: Phil Cooper Date: 15 Jan 02 - 04:16 PM I would agree that you should get dog obedience help to break the habit. When I was young we had a dog that never would stop chasing cars. We tried all sorts of methods, none of which worked. Not even getting hit with a glancing blow from a car stopped him (three days later he was back at it again). We lived rurally and didn't keep him tied up (this was 1964, way before leash ordinances were common). Chasing cars did him in. We did the poor dog no favors by letting him run free and not breaking him of the habit. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: nutty Date: 15 Jan 02 - 04:17 PM I agree with Mark about the need for training. Your dog is reaching maturity and is obviously seeing vehicles as a threat to what it perceives as its territory. This is "top dog" or "pack leader" behaviour. By disciplining your dog and re-establishing yourself as "top dog" you free your dog from the need to protect it's territory, so doing away with the need to chase cars. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: Jerry Rasmussen Date: 15 Jan 02 - 04:18 PM Just a humorous, totally impractical tip. Many years ago when dogs ran free in my home town, I'd take my nephews and nieces out for a ride. When a dog would spot us, I'd slow down to about 2 miles and hour, until the dog was just walking slowly beside the car, looking utterly mortified. What if his friends had seen him? Soon, he'd just kind of slink away, and my nephews and nieces thought it was the coolest thing going. Forget impressing them by racing down the road. Embarassing dogs was a lot more fun. We did have a dog that chased cars and motorcycles so I got a friend of mine with a motorcycle to let me ride on the back, and when out dog came racing after us, I threw a bucket of ice water on him. That seemed to do the trick. I wouldn't recommend either of these approaches seriously, but it sure was fun watching the expression on the dog's faces.. Jerry |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: nutty Date: 15 Jan 02 - 04:19 PM I agree with Mark about the need for training. Your dog is reaching maturity and is obviously seeing vehicles as a threat to what it perceives as its territory. This is "top dog" or "pack leader" behaviour. By disciplining your dog and re-establishing yourself as "top dog" you free your dog from the need to protect it's territory, so doing away with the need to chase cars. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: Don Firth Date: 15 Jan 02 - 04:39 PM I read somewhere that dogs chasing cars is a manifestion of the same instinct that makes dogs good shepherds. Dunno, but it sound plausible. Snoopy once said that the reason he chases cars is that he wants to read the hub-caps. Often wondered what a dog would do with a car if he caught one. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: katlaughing Date: 15 Jan 02 - 04:43 PM Put 2-3 pennies in a soda pop can, tape over the opening and rattle it when he begins any unacceptable behaviour. If it doesn't get his attention, thus stopping the action, try tossing it as his hind leg. It is light enough not to hurt and the object is to get their attention so that they stop what they are doing. I strongly recommend a book by a woman vet called "The Invisible Leash." That's where I learned of the penny in a can trick. It works, even with the cats! The only sure fire way to keep him safe, though, is a lead or better fence. Good luck, kat |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: GUEST,Mark Clark (via public proxy) Date: 15 Jan 02 - 04:43 PM LL, Get a book by The Monks of New Skete called “How to Be Your Dog's Best Friend: A Training Manual for Dog Owners” and do whatever they say. These monks have really made a contribution to the body of knowledge around dog (and owner) training. - Mark |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: Amergin Date: 15 Jan 02 - 04:46 PM The late James Herriot has this story about one of the places he would visit....the farmer had a dog that would chase cars down the driveway...as if to run them off...One day Herriot's son was with him and the dog was chasing their car...the son squirted the dog in the face with water....the dog stood back bewildered...but next time they came he was chasing cars again...so they squirted him again...until he finally stopped altogether.... Later when that dog had puppies the farmer called Mr. Herriot up asking if he and his son would like to train this batch, too.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: JenEllen Date: 15 Jan 02 - 04:49 PM I agree totally with the obedience training, and I'll give you the same bad-behaviour advice I give everyone: "A tired dog is a good dog." EXERCISE YOUR DOG...if you give him other things to chase, and make him good and tired every day, the driving force behind car-chasing is gone to lack of pent-up energy. You also get the benifit of bonding time with a member of your family, as well as getting some exercise for yourself. If you cannot manage a half-hour of your time to spend with your dog, you shouldn't have one.
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: catspaw49 Date: 15 Jan 02 - 04:52 PM Personal observation only-------I'd estimate that only about half of the dogs I've known that have chased cars (never had one myself), and especially those that started late, have been able to be trained to break the habit. I know that there are some who have things and methods that guarantee success, but it's a crapshoot I think. Good Luck LL!! Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: kendall Date: 15 Jan 02 - 04:53 PM Have you tried the electric collar? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: DougR Date: 15 Jan 02 - 05:10 PM LL, sorry, I can't resist. Just whisper in his ear one word ..."Buddy." DougR |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: Steve in Idaho Date: 15 Jan 02 - 05:26 PM My Granddad swore that by attaching a potato sack to the wheel the dog could catch the car (drive slowly). Then the sack would give the dog a good flip when he bit it and thereby "break him" of chasing cars. Only thing it did was kill one dog - broke his neck. I agree with Spaw - it's a crap shoot as to whether or not the dog will quit once it has started. I tried an electric collar - even got up on the roof of the house so the dog didn't know where I was. All it did was reinforce the idea that the car/truck was part of the problem and needed chased off "his" territory. I'd certainly endorse professional training assistance to alleviate the problem. Good luck!! Steve |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: Bobert Date: 15 Jan 02 - 05:54 PM I gotta agree with Kendall. The shock collar works not only on the car chasing problem but with just about any obnoxious behavior your dog can think up to do to bug you. You can get them with pretty recent range. They come with different tips (electrodes) and settings so that you don't end up frying the poor hound. I have one, with instructions, tips, etc in the original box I can make you a good deal on should you decide to go that direction. Send me a PM if interested. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: catspaw49 Date: 15 Jan 02 - 06:02 PM Yeah Bobertz, but it's the one you got to put on Rufus ain't it? Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: Sorcha Date: 15 Jan 02 - 06:09 PM Trouble with shock collars is you have to BE there to shock the dog. The dog soon figures out whether you are there and whether the collar has the battries in. I can't say it long or loud enough..........FENCE!! or outside dog run. If it's not cars, it'll be something else........poison, antifreeze in the neighbors drive, neighbors with a grudge against dog shit in their yard.....if you love your dog, either fence your yard or buy a chain link run!!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: nutty Date: 15 Jan 02 - 07:04 PM The other option is to spend time with your dog and teach it right from wrong. Do not believe people who say that the dog is not trainable that is absolute rubbish ..... any dog can be trained if enough time is spent with it. If a dog is left to its own devices it becomes bored and looks for activities that will bring a little excitement into its life, without guidance it will opt for dangerous activities like chasing cars. My two dogs are both rescued animals ..... at the obedience class we attend, 90% of the dogs there have been rescued ........ 50% of the dogs we meet up with on walks have been rescued. These owners are committed to doing the best for the animals they have adopted and some quite severe behaviour problems have been overcome ...... anything is possible. Sorry if I sound preachy but I feel very strongly about this. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: Sorcha Date: 15 Jan 02 - 07:16 PM I agree about training, but training will only go so far to overcome instinct. If the dog is "herding" cars, you are NOT going to break the instinct. Water bottles are good, long leads and a sharp NO are good, but nothing beats a fence. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: nutty Date: 15 Jan 02 - 07:54 PM Sorry Sorcha but I disagree...... the whole point of dog training is to overcome instinct. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: kendall Date: 15 Jan 02 - 08:05 PM The idea of the shock collar is to stop the dog BEFORE it gets to the car. How much for the collar? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: John Gray Date: 15 Jan 02 - 08:22 PM Amputate one leg, works every time. JG/FME |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: Amos Date: 15 Jan 02 - 08:28 PM Have him practice on parked cars; after he catches a few he'll have too much of a headache to chase any more.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: Sorcha Date: 15 Jan 02 - 08:32 PM I'm not so sure you can train out instinct.....training usually reinforces instinct and instills manners. You can't take the "herd" or "gaurd" out of the dog.......no way. Don't know why you would want to. Just protect your dog.
Humans have so very few true instincts left that we tend to think "instincts" can be re trained. Granted, you can re-direct the instinct, but I don't think you can train it out. Just try to get a sight hound to stop looking for things to chase, or a bloodhound for things to smell. The real clue here is behaviorial reinforcement.......reward the good, punish the bad. Reward ALWAYS works better than punishment, with humans or dogs. Praise is an amazing thing. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: Lyrical Lady Date: 15 Jan 02 - 08:49 PM Thank you everyone for such a great response. My "boy" is a beautiful Golden Retriever ... he gets walked 5 miles daily. (you're right Jen Ellen ... dogs are great for exercise!) He never leaves the property .. until he hears a car coming down our dead end street. I'm beginning to think it is a territorial thing. He's very obedient, comes when he's called etc etc, it's just every once in awhile he gets a notion to chase cars. He's going to live at the end of a rope for a while until I can afford a fence. Thank you all so much. LL |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: GUEST Date: 15 Jan 02 - 08:52 PM Dogs have the same defective gene that men have. It makes them chase cars they have no intention of driving; like we chase women we have no intention of marrying... lol |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: Sorcha Date: 15 Jan 02 - 08:52 PM Good, then, LL. At least Goldens aren't known for climbing!! They will jump, though, so be sure you build the fence high enough. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: Bobert Date: 15 Jan 02 - 09:18 PM Spawz; Well, ol' Rufe ain't chased a car in months. Well, that's not exactly true. There was that night a couple a nights before Christmas when everyone in the trailer park was arguing about just about anything they could think of to argue about with anyone they could find to argue with and ol' Rufe and Retha Mae got into over watching roller derby and then next thing you know, she was packin' up the Chevette to go up the the top of the mountain to spend Chiestams with her mom, Helen. Well, Rufus, had just finished doing his usual Christmas ritual of kickin the driver's door of the Chevette as Retha Mae was pulling her Christmas get away to mamas when Rufus remembered that he'd picked up a case of Black Label which was still in the trunk of the Chevette. Now, I wasn't there to see it for my self but the folks in the treiler park said he was worse than any dog they'd ever seen. The boy was chasin and barkin and carryin on and ol Retha just stepped on the gas and turned up the Merle Travis tape in the cassette deck. Well, you gotta hand it to the boy. I don't know how long he chased that Chevette but about two hours later ol' Rufe come walkin' back into the trailer park, whistlin' Jingle Bells and had him his case (less 7 beers) of Black Label under his arm. But other than that little relapse, Spawz, the collar has done wonders for the boy... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: 53 Date: 15 Jan 02 - 09:22 PM i had a dog once that chased cars until he ran head first with a camper, it hit him so hard that it turned his eyes inside out, it didn't kill him but he sure learned his lesson. BOB |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: catspaw49 Date: 15 Jan 02 - 09:44 PM Say what? I'd ask you to explain that one BOB but I'm afraid you would............ Bobertz, you're about as warped as I am so lemmee ask if you also had the mental image of Norton's post up there like I did. Somehow I can just see Clete and Rufus in that Chevette with a tater sack on the wheel and some poor old hound going round and round and one of them saying to the other, "Soundz like a flat." Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: Bobert Date: 15 Jan 02 - 09:46 PM Yo, BOB, did he walk backwards after that? Just funnin', don't mind the ol' bobert. Actually, I had a dog as a kid that came home one night with his inards... ahhh... outwards and so we took the poor dog to the vet who stuffed everything that looked usefull back inside him and preceeded to sew up an 8 inch hole. The danged dog lived another 10 years and chased cars until the day he died. Now, it don't get no better than that for a car chasin' hound... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: Bobert Date: 15 Jan 02 - 10:06 PM Ain't flat, Spawz. Just a little low on air and got a big ol' goober in the sidewall. But not to fear, Rufus is tradin' 2 rebuildable Chevette carbs for a couple of good Dunlops with the white raised letters. Hecjk of a deal... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: Bobert Date: 15 Jan 02 - 10:21 PM And, Norton, like Spawz I also got this image of this dead dog who has a death grip in the potato sack so that every 6 0r 7 feet you drive there is a nasty thumping sound outside of the car.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: Gypsy Date: 15 Jan 02 - 10:34 PM Fence! Again, FENCE! We have two pomeranians, who cannot be seen once they are within 10 feet of a car. T posts, and rabbit wire make it go really fast, and then you needn't worry again. Our dogs run, chase balls, and are walked daily. MILES of walking. And they still think they can take on your average truck. Go for the fence. Loose dogs are generally trouble unless closely supervised. (speaking as a former sheep rancher) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: Sorcha Date: 15 Jan 02 - 10:38 PM OK, if the baby is a Golden, it's not an instinct,it's a whim, and you can break it. Golden's are retrievers, not herders. They bring things back, not bunch them up. Water squirts, long lead/sharp NO, etc. should work. Fence is still the best idea, IMO. Just don't leave him/her alone without some sort of control........Mom, fence, leash, etc. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: Jerry Rasmussen Date: 15 Jan 02 - 11:05 PM All seriousness aside, I do know someone whose dog managed to bite the hub cap of a car he caught up to and did a very neat full-gainer, splat onto the road. He never chased cars anymore, but he could see around corners without turning his head. Jerry |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: 53 Date: 15 Jan 02 - 11:21 PM dogs do the darnest things, don't they? BOB |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: JenEllen Date: 15 Jan 02 - 11:36 PM A retriever? I can't tell you how glad I am to hear that! LOL In my experience, I've found retrievers to be both the most intelligent, and the most idiotic dogs you will ever come across. You can use this to your advantage in all sorts of wonderful ways. They are idiots, so the strangest things will give them pause, but they are intelligent enough that they don't forget what they've been taught. One strange success story was a Lab that chased cars. The family got the neighborhood kids together and had them all hide in the shrubs with garbage can lids and sticks. When the dog went for the car, all the kids hopped out and made quite a racket. Scared the dog near to death. To this very day (3 years later, mind you) when a car drives by, the dog will start to run, reach the bushes, stop for a look to make sure nothing is hiding, and by then the car is long gone. I also agree with Sorcha. There really is no substitute for a fence or kennel when the 'people' are gone. You can get a simple 7x7 enclosure for about $150, enough room to stretch, food and water and toys, but with a retriever, you don't want to overdo it. They get bored really quickly, and you could be ending the car-chasing behavior but inadvertantly encouraging nasty things like boredom chewing/licking/barking. (Enjoy those 5 mile runs, I'm proud of you!) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: GUEST,Ernest Date: 16 Jan 02 - 07:16 AM One of the oldest devices to keep dogs from chasing beings/things is said to be a (long and heavy enough) stick tied to his collar. Hurts him when he is running, but won`t be injuring him (at least, if he is smart enough to stop). I haven´t seen it in use, so you can`t be sure if it is working, but dogs are individuals just like humans. Good luck Ernest
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: Dave Bryant Date: 16 Jan 02 - 08:24 AM If your dog grows big enough, perhaps you'll wake up one morning and find a car lying upside down on your back doorstep. Heck, it might be better than the one you've got already ! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: kendall Date: 16 Jan 02 - 08:39 AM When I was a boy we had a mix breed dog that chased cars all his life. It was impossible to break him, and even when he was run over it didn't stop him. All it did was make him snarl at NASH cars. He made it to the age of 14 when someone shot him. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: Trevor Date: 16 Jan 02 - 09:49 AM I use the 'slowing down' technique - it confuses them every time. Barbara Woodhouse suggested getting a friend to drive past your house with you in the passenger seat, armed with a telephone directory, which you sling at the dog with as much force as you can muster. A useful site for those of you interested in the general maltreatment of dogs is here |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: Steve in Idaho Date: 16 Jan 02 - 10:18 AM Bobert and Spaw - Yes on those counts - "Grrrr - wap - Grrrr - wap - Grrr - - wap" is how I remember it. I have no clue on whether it worked or not. I was too young to remember most of it. But you know how a piece of a memory will attach? When I worked on the Reservation there was one of the guy's places that had a dog who did not like white guys. Had to watch him like a hawk or get dog bit. He would regularly attack my car as I was leaving (never got me but figured the car was a good second choice I guess). When I traded that car in the dealer was trying to figure out where all of the teeth marks in the rear bumper came from. That dog bit the crap out it!! The best is really what others have stated - a fence. Dogs chase things because they see them as a threat to their space, territorial instinct and all dogs have it, and when they chase a car the car runs away. Simply reinforces their notion that they are successfully protecting the property. Probably have gone on too much about this - but a fence works - every time if correctly installed! Steve Would Cletus go "Grrrr - whoops!!! - Grrrr - Whoops!!! ???? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: kendall Date: 16 Jan 02 - 02:57 PM If you dont like the looks of a fence, consider one of those underground electric ones. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: SharonA Date: 16 Jan 02 - 04:38 PM Do those underground "invisible fences" really work? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: Jerry Rasmussen Date: 16 Jan 02 - 06:30 PM Anybody ever try this? If you drove by your house in reverse, would your dog chase you backwards? Just wondering. Jerry |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: Banjer Date: 16 Jan 02 - 06:49 PM On my home from work I pass a large fenced yard in which lives a beautiful Sheltie. When he is outside and sees a vehicle approaching he is at the near corner of the fence and makes a big spectacle of chasing the vehicle as far as he can run (to the other corner). I have made a point of driving by that yard many a day and sometimes go a regular speed and other times I confuse the poor thing by eitehr slowing down or even coming to a complete stop! The addled look on his face when I stop and he was still running is priceless! He has come to recognize the truck and now only runs at half gallop anticipating that I may stop. We enjoy our little game whenever he is outside! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: Ebbie Date: 16 Jan 02 - 06:56 PM Nature and dogs abhor a vacuum. I have re-trained dogs' responses by substituting SOMETHING ELSE to do. (NO is a command neither man nor beast enjoys- we all plan to do our own thing FIRST, and THEN we'll obey, we think.) Assuming your dog already has basic training, take him on a leash and walk him by the road. When a car comes and he tenses in the instinct to chase, immediately say, SIT or DOWN, whichever you like. (I always have used DOWN for retraining.) Reward him, whatever your method. Do the same thing with him on a long lead. Then, when he's loose, if you plan to continue having him run loose. Do it first close up then at greater distances. It works. I have literally saved a dog's life by signalling DOWN when he was prepared to dash across the street to some children in front of a truck coming down the hill. Worth all the effort.
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: Lyrical Lady Date: 16 Jan 02 - 09:03 PM Here's the deal ... Bailey spent the first three years of his life in a fenced yard ... 4 mo. ago I left my home of 16 years and moved with dog, kids and cats to a new home sans fence. I kept the dog penned or leased for quite sometime at first...then let him roam free to see what he would do. He stays home, does not roam the neighbourhood, does not bark, will greet anyone in a friendly manner, loves other dogs. He was the perfect dog...until just recently...when he took to chasing cars. Maybe he thinks he's the "man" of the house now...of course he would be right. Thank you for all your help and concern. LL ( Do those invisible fences work?) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: Dave Bryant Date: 17 Jan 02 - 04:26 AM I bet "Old Shep" or "Blue" would never have chased cars ! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: GUEST,Martin Ryan Date: 17 Jan 02 - 05:11 AM Many years ago, I had a cat that chased people on bicycles (the people, not the cat..), snapping at their ankles. The look on their faces was priceless.Can't remember how we cured it... Regards |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: catspaw49 Date: 17 Jan 02 - 07:42 AM Here's my vote for the dog I would most like to see flattened by a Ford......CLICK--Squash Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: Trevor Date: 17 Jan 02 - 07:54 AM My car was chased by a pheasant the other day. As is usual with these daft animals I had to slow down to let him and his harem cross the road (when all of my instincts were shouting 'free dinner'!). When I drew level with him he started running alongside, with the occasional hop and flap, pecking at the wheels. He was eventually running at about 25mph and I'm sure he had a really hard expression on his face (remember how that Emu used to curl his beak?) Probably a good job I didn't run him down, he would have wrecked the car and then eaten ME! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: Jerry Rasmussen Date: 17 Jan 02 - 02:07 PM Thanks Spaw... now I can't eat lunch. It's the new Mr. Winkle diet. Look at the picture just before each meal. Jerry |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: GUEST,JTT Date: 17 Jan 02 - 04:41 PM Can't help with your car-chasing problems. The girls in the local pet shop say that the best way to cure a dog is to put it on a rope attached to the bumper and drive around a field until the dog's exhausted - but it sounds cruel to me, and I wouldn't do it. They claim that the dog will then associate cars with horrible experiences. They said another thing which sounds more sensible - if you're going to live in the country, you should first introduce your dog to a ram - it'll *never* chase sheep if the first one it meets is a ram! But speaking as someone who hasn't yet succeeded in teaching my dog to walk properly to heel - she insists that she's the leader - I can't give any advice. Except on one thing. Don't use electric collars. They may cure the dog (or they may not), but they'll make him frightened of things that touch his neck, and they'll bring out a nasty side in yourself. I'd build a fence. Can't be that dear. And if you have a fence your dog isn't going to be the one blamed when a dog bites a child. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: Terry K Date: 18 Jan 02 - 04:53 AM There's an injection you can get which works every time - they put a little bit of lead in the dog's ear.
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: Hrothgar Date: 18 Jan 02 - 05:01 AM If the cars turn on your dog and start chasing him, you're going to have a real problem. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: GUEST,arthog52 Date: 19 Jan 02 - 12:37 AM I once heard if you remove a hubcap and loosen a lug to fasten a piece of coathanger wire and attatch a rag, the dog will catch the rag which will wrap around his beak thus teaching the doggie not to chase cars any more. (If the dog lives through the lesson) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: katlaughing Date: 19 Jan 02 - 09:46 AM LL, just be careful he doesnt' chew through the rope. I had to use a cable wrapped in plastic with one dog because he chewed the rope every time. Some of you have posted some pretty mean shit. Glad my dog isn't around any of you!:-> |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: Gypsy Date: 19 Jan 02 - 04:57 PM Two thoughts. Invisible fencing first. Yes, to a certain extent, it will work. But it is NOT foolproof, there is training involved, and remember, the batteries need to be replenished regularly. And, if something scares your dog, he will bolt, and then be unable to get BACK onto your property. They really are not a secure way to go. Have tried them, and know considerable people who have them. Also, they are not cheap. Second thought. You cannot "sheep proof" a dog introducing him to a ram. Believe me. When your friendly dog gets together with other dogs, they WILL run sheep. I'm out of sheep ranching because of local dogs. So, if you are in any kind of livestock territory, get the fence, and check it for holes regularly. Deer/rabbit wire is the best, so they don't go through the mesh. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: John Hardly Date: 19 Jan 02 - 05:23 PM Gypsy is right about the invisible fence. It works -- and it doesn't. If a dog for any reason bolts, it not only passes through to the outside of the fence (beyond it's effectiveness) and makes it impossible (except by bolting into the yard--unlikely) that it will return to the safety of your yard. This, in its own way "trains" the dog that just a split second of discomfort will result in freedom--a choice he's going to be more and more willing to take. Another problem with invisible fences---other animals, wild and otherwise, have free access to your yard and pets, jeopardizing their safety. I have seen many happy users of the IF though. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: Deckman Date: 19 Jan 02 - 05:43 PM You folks are making this WAY TOO complicated. The answer is simple ... SHOOT THE CARS! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: Lyrical Lady Date: 19 Jan 02 - 06:32 PM HA HA ... if were only that simple! Maybe ban cars from our street .. yes, I'll start a petition! Seriously... Bailey is getting used to being tied up..I still don't like it, but it will do 'til I can build a fence.. He's not a chewer, Kat, so no worries there. I found a great park today that went for miles along a little creek and opened up into a large field where dogs can run free. I now have a very tired dog who's snoozing quite happily by the fire. Thanks again one and all... LL PS... I actually saw a dog get hit and killed the other night... brought all this "stuff" home real quick! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: GUEST,JTT Date: 20 Jan 02 - 10:58 AM By the way, there's an excellent book called The Dog Listener, by Jan Fennell, who used to do programmes about problem dogs on Channel 4 or UTV, forget which. Well worth a read. And she has a new book coming out. If you're rich and in England, she does sessions - I was going to say dog training, but they're more owner-training - for £250. Dear, and impossible with the price of the euro, but you might find it worth it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: Jerry Rasmussen Date: 20 Jan 02 - 01:51 PM Lots of good advice on here, some laughs, some black humor.. sounds like a Mudcat thread. Just to remind myself that this isn't just a fun-filled discussion, when I was a little kid, I had a puppy named Tipper. Took that pup for rides in my little wagon, and we were inseparable. The morning that I was starting Kindergarten, I was sitting at the kitchen table having breakfast with my Mom and Dad and sisters when we heard a squeal of tires and then a car racing off. We went to see what had happened, and discovered that Tipper had squeezed out through the screen door, and was lying dead in the street. I had about two miuntes to cry, and then I headed off for my first day of school. I LOVE dogs... Jerry |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Chasing Cars..Help From: Gypsy Date: 25 Jan 02 - 11:01 PM Now back in town....so sorry Jerry. What an awful memorie. And one to avoid happening! Our neighbours and their company drive very fast down the dirt driveway, so absolutely love the fence protecting our two wee ones. You've gotta love a dog who naps in mando cases. Or fiddle, banjo, guit, whatever is open. Other thoughts on fencing....no more worries about strange dogs coming in to fight. We had a cat killed in our dooryard due to a dog coming in (pre fence era) |