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Nottingham Swing?

GUEST,Emma 07 Jan 02 - 08:32 PM
Malcolm Douglas 07 Jan 02 - 09:48 PM
Mr Red 08 Jan 02 - 02:47 PM
MMario 08 Jan 02 - 03:01 PM
Maxine 08 Jan 02 - 04:47 PM
Malcolm Douglas 08 Jan 02 - 05:21 PM
Tattie Bogle 08 Jan 02 - 07:37 PM
Anglo 08 Jan 02 - 07:41 PM
Ringer 09 Jan 02 - 05:15 AM
MMario 09 Jan 02 - 09:17 AM
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Subject: Nottingham Swing?
From: GUEST,Emma
Date: 07 Jan 02 - 08:32 PM

I know this is not quite folk music, but I figured folk dance is kinda close, right? Anyway, I was wondering if anyone had the notation for the English dance Nottingham Swing. thanks

Emma


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Subject: RE: Nottingham Swing?
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 07 Jan 02 - 09:48 PM

Of course it's folk music!  Here's one set of instructions, with additional links:  Webfeet: Nottingham Swing


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Subject: RE: Nottingham Swing?
From: Mr Red
Date: 08 Jan 02 - 02:47 PM

Not a lot of people know this
but Nottingham got its name from: ham = homestead (anglo saxon cf hamlet), ing = possesive of/ belonging to, and the family it belonged to was Snot
I can't verify the story because I no longer have my dictionary of British Place Names but it feel true.
any disenters?


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Subject: RE: Nottingham Swing?
From: MMario
Date: 08 Jan 02 - 03:01 PM

nottingham evidently derived from "Nauta-engjar" meaning "cattle meadows"


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Subject: RE: Nottingham Swing?
From: Maxine
Date: 08 Jan 02 - 04:47 PM

Wow, do they have swingers in Nottingham? I always thought it was such a nice place. Mind you,it is frequented by men in tights so I suppose I shouldn't be too surprised!


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Subject: RE: Nottingham Swing?
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 08 Jan 02 - 05:21 PM

It's an odd thing, but I was convinced that this came up ages ago, and yet it was only yesterday.  That's January for you, I suppose.  It occurs to me that you might have wanted notation for the music rather than the dance, so I thought I'd mention that you can find it in various formats at  J C's Tunefinder.  A search there for Nottingham Swing will find three tunes; two versions of King of the Cannibal Islands, which is the tune most associated with the dance, and one set of Bacca Pipes, which apparently is also used sometimes.


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Subject: RE: Nottingham Swing?
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 08 Jan 02 - 07:37 PM

At Sidmouth Festival for the last couple of years, they've tried to do the dance all around the town to get themselves into the "Guinness Book of Records": I'm still not sure whether we made it in 2001. Does anyone know for sure? It is a dance that lends itself to very long sets! in this case a couple of miles! Tattie B


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Subject: RE: Nottingham Swing?
From: Anglo
Date: 08 Jan 02 - 07:41 PM

The King of the Cannibal Islands tune is also known as Hilly-Go Filly-Go All The Way, or Philibelula All The Way. The standard tune used for this dance in English counrey dance circles here in the US is quite similar to the tune Malcolm links to, but some of the salient features of the tune occur on different places in the bar. I have driven experienced dancers nuts using the English version of the tune, or worse, using the two tunes in medley.


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Subject: RE: Nottingham Swing?
From: Ringer
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 05:15 AM

Wow! a 2-mile long set for Nottingham Swing is quite something. How is the top synchronised with the bottom? Is there a different band every 20 yards or so? Does every musician (or every band's leader) have his ear to a mobile phone?

Having been born and bred within sight of Nottingham, I'd always understood that the city was named for the home on the Snots. MMario: where does your "Nauta-engjar" come from?


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Subject: RE: Nottingham Swing?
From: MMario
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 09:17 AM

I did a google search on 'Nottingham "place names" british origins.

an intermiediary form listed (approx 13th century) was notingar


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