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Subject: Angina From: Hawker Date: 03 Jan 02 - 05:40 PM A few weeks back I joined in a discussion thread about high blood pressure, and was concerned that my doc was unsure if I was suffering from angina or indigestion... Went to see the cardiologist this morning, I am, in his opinion - without a shadow of a doubt, suffering from angina. He has put me down to have an angiogram to see what my arteries are like! It all seems a little scary to me! What a way to start the year! Lucy |
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Subject: RE: BS: Angina From: Deckman Date: 03 Jan 02 - 06:06 PM Lucy ... the angiogram is very easy, almost pain free. I know! After my angiogram, I then had triple bipass surgery ... that was NOT so pain free, but I'm smiling and laughing (and singing) today. Believe me, the angiogram is O.K. Sleep well, CHEERS, Bob |
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Subject: RE: BS: Angina From: Sorcha Date: 03 Jan 02 - 06:17 PM Bummer Lucy. Keep us posted, OK? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Angina From: MARINER Date: 03 Jan 02 - 06:18 PM Don't worry about the angiogram, it's nothing and pain free. I was diagnosed with angina after one ,some months ago and am now waiting to see what the medics decide to do with me.But the angiogram its self is no problem. Its over before you know it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Angina From: catspaw49 Date: 03 Jan 02 - 06:42 PM Hey Lucy, not to worry too much here okay? The things that are being done now can often take care of your problem without too many problems and a little change in eating and/or lifestyle will put you back on the road. Better if you catch it now too as the longer you let it go, the worse things get. Angina is generally brought on by a lack of blood supply to the heart muscle. It's not a lack of flow through the chambers of the heart, but rather a lack of blood in the arteries that make the muscle itself function. An angiogram is a form of CAT-scan that uses dye to see how the flow in these "feeder" arteries has been affected. No pain, nothing to it....just lay on your back as they feed you back and forth inside a cylinder/tube like gizmo. Your main contribution to this will be laying very still and following directions such as holding your breath a few times. Takes maybe 15 minutes. If a blockage is shown, a second test is generally performed, a heart catheterization. A heart cath is a bit different in that they will invade your bod a bit, but in a fascinating way. Again, your job is to lie flat and follow some simple instructions. On a table beneath a big camera like gizmo, you are scrubbed and shaved (damn cold water!) and a small cutdown is made in your groin. This doesn't hurt much more than a bee sting and they insert a "sleeve" into the femoral artery junction. Through this sleeve they insert a fine tube into the arteries and you can watch the screens as the Doc runs this thing in and out of various arteries and measures pressures......you don't feel a thing! You possibly have a minor blockage in one of the coronary areteries and if this is not too severe, they often can change cath tubes and perform an angioplasty at the same time or possibly insert a stint. Again, none of this is painful and not really very time consuming. The worst part of a cath is afterwards when they jeep pressure on the femoral opening for about an hour and then you must lie still on your back for another3-5 hours to be sure there is np bleeding. If they find anything beyond that, then other "fixes" mat be needed, but you'll know more after the angiogram. Good luck and don't worry......It's an amazing technology and you can actually enjoy what you see and learn. If they need to go further, well, things are changeing all the time and the operations are getting easier and less invasive. Let us know what's happening......I'll try to explain it in layman's terms becausr I have pretty much been there and done that. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Angina From: Gareth Date: 03 Jan 02 - 06:50 PM Its O.K. Hawker, yer can live with it, I do. The examinations don't hurt - just live a sensible life. The only major down side for me was I had to give up sailing for two years until the Doc was happy that the temperature shock of going over the wall would not kill me outright. Don't know why - given the choice of floating in a life jacket hoping to be picked up, or a clean termination. Well you choose ! Best of luck Gareth Old fishermans joke. "And how long would you live if you went over the side in these waters ?" A/. " Ten minutes if your lucky - or two hours if your not !" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Angina From: katlaughing Date: 03 Jan 02 - 06:54 PM Lucy, it is good to find about such things, of course, as knowing can enable them to help prevent any manner of of dire things, including strokes and heart attacks. Knowing can equal prevention.:-) The only heart cath I've ever ahd was in 1979, so they have probably improved a lot. The only thing that bothered me was having to stay flat on my back for such a length of time, during and after; that was very painful. The angiogram itself was NOT and I even got to watch the catheter as it was moved throughout my heart and saw the chmabers, valves, etc., which was really interesting! You can find more information at PlainSense. If you have any interest in alternative methods of healing clogged arteries, etc. please send me a PM, as I've explored quite a bit and would be happy to share. All the best, kat |
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Subject: RE: BS: Angina From: ddw Date: 03 Jan 02 - 06:59 PM Lucy, What Spaw said. I went through all this mess about 13 years ago. I had an undiagnosed heart attack in 1982 that was treated as angina. The doc I had at the time said he couldn't justify ANY invasive procedures, so I was just on medications. It took me two years to recover. Then in 1988 I had another and they got aggressive. Sent me for an angiogram, found the blockage (stress-related constriction, not plaque buildup or anything like that) and did an angioplasty on me the same day. After a night's rest I was discharged and felt better than I had in many years. Since then, I've gone back to exercising and pretty well living as I please, albeit with with meds for high blood pressure and cholesterol — which is no big deal..... Best of luck. And, as Spaw said, DON'T WORRY. It'll do absolutely nothing except make things worse. cheers, david |
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Subject: RE: BS: Angina From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 03 Jan 02 - 11:15 PM FRANKLY you should have stuck to your "discussion group" BUT>>>>> You SHOULDBe Scared Shittless! Have similar.
Myself, Saw the first sawbones.... in ten years.... today.
Argued with him.
Will treat it myself.... with diet, weight-loss, herbs and exercise.
In six weeks will see if angina is less and cholestrol lowers substantialy below current 278.
Read the small print on the angiogram....punctured vessels, displaced plaque resulting in stroke, damaged valves, death!
GO TO THIS PAGE AND IT's LINKS - or you too.... could soon be like pathetic old paw.....Take control, it is YOUR life and it is YOUR body. (Half my relatives died before 60 and several of those before 50)
Linus Pauling Institute http://www.paulingtherapy.com/
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Subject: RE: BS: Angina From: DougR Date: 04 Jan 02 - 12:01 AM I had this procedure done in 1993, and survived. What everyone says is true, it's painless. I had some difficulty after because the doctor had to squeeze my leg so hard to stop blood flow from the entry, I was bruised and it was a bit difficult to walk for a few days. Got lots of sympathy, though, and wallowed in the attention. DougR |
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Subject: RE: BS: Angina From: katlaughing Date: 04 Jan 02 - 12:23 AM I shoulda kept my mouth shut and just waited for Spaw. gargoyle, you are a mean-arsed cuss, but thanks for the link. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Angina From: Hawker Date: 04 Jan 02 - 03:01 AM Thank you all for your replies, and in the main kind words! I am fairly aware of what I am facing as Mum had a triple bypass in July this year, she has been AMAZING! Its just a bit of a shock when it catches you unawares, but I love to dance, and if it means I will be able to do that again, I am happy to go forward. I know it sounds silly, but its the diet bit I find the hardest!two years ago I was told to loose 3 stones, I lost 2 of those, but I simply cannot shed the third, perhaps GUEST, gargoyle may go some way to scaring me into it!!!!! Thanks again, Lucy |
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Subject: RE: BS: Angina From: Jim Krause Date: 04 Jan 02 - 01:59 PM So this lady walks into the doctor's office and waits. Finally she is called by the nurse and ushered into the examining room. By and by the doc comes in with his charts and says to the woman "You have accute angina." Blushing the woman says "I know." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Angina From: Ebbie Date: 04 Jan 02 - 02:09 PM Those relatives of yours, gargoyle- did they die of natural causes? :) Ebbie |