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Subject: The Hunting Song From: cljones@uswestmail.net Date: 04 Aug 99 - 01:13 PM For years, I have looked for the lyrics to "The Hunting Song" recorded by Pentangle. Does anyone know where I could find them. Thank you in advance.clj |
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Subject: RE: The Hunting Song From: Susan of DT Date: 04 Aug 99 - 08:08 PM Can you give us a line or two, so we know which hunting song you have in mind? |
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Subject: RE: The Hunting Song From: cljones@uswestmail.net Date: 04 Aug 99 - 09:25 PM It is on the album/cd "Basket of Light", something like, 'As I did travel, all on a journey. . . . . 'There followed after, 10 Kings and Queens, Laughing and joking, The white hart they'd seen'. . . Of course, I only know little bits of the lyrics. Even these may not be right. Again, thank you for helping. |
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Subject: RE: The Hunting Song From: Richard Bridge Date: 05 Aug 99 - 04:12 PM I think I have that. Back soon |
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Subject: RE: The Hunting Song From: Richard Bridge Date: 05 Aug 99 - 05:18 PM Drat. I have it, but I thought the words were on the sleeve, so I coud scan them in, but no such luck, and it has proved bery difficult to use voice recognition withthe song in the background. I have it about half transcrtibed and will haave to stop now before wife comes in! GIve it a day or two. I might get it fu=inished. |
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Subject: RE: The Hunting Song From: Claude Jones cljones@uswestmail.net Date: 05 Aug 99 - 11:49 PM Richard...Thanks for doing it. I certainly can wait a day or two after all these years.clj |
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Subject: Lyr Add: HUNTING SONG (from Pentangle) From: Richard Bridge Date: 06 Aug 99 - 06:12 PM Well, that was a bit dodgy in places. A triumph of sound over semantics. Parts of the words I can't get off and are guesses. Other bits I think I have right, phonetically, but they make not a lot of sense. Line lengths and number of lines in verse seem pretty random too. I wish you lots fo luch learning it!! Here it is (and I hope the line breaks work)
HUNTING SONG,
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Subject: RE: The Hunting Song From: clj cljones@uswestmail.net Date: 06 Aug 99 - 06:35 PM Thank you so much. I know it was a pain to get this and a bit o work. God Bless you. Now if I could just find the lyrics to The Maid of Coolmore. . . . . |
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Subject: RE: The Hunting Song From: Richard Bridge Date: 08 Aug 99 - 11:08 AM Start a separate thread. BTW have you done a search first? |
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Subject: RE: The Hunting Song From: Legal Eagle Date: 08 Aug 99 - 12:36 PM I wonder if these are worth adding to the database? |
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Subject: Lyr Add: HUNTING SONG (from Pentangle) From: Mikael_B Date: 08 Aug 99 - 01:34 PM I'm glad to see that I was far from alone enjoying that song, I had almost given up my hope on finding a decent transcription of it after searching the web a week ago until I suddenly stumbled upon this thread. Anyway, I started a transcription of it myself some time ago, although I didn't come very far so it's quite incomplete. Besides, I'm just a stubborn Swedish guy with small practice using old style English grammatics, but I guess it can be of interest to have seen it anyway? --- HUNTING SONG. As I did travel long on a journey Over the wayside and under a dark moon Hanging above the mountain. I spied a young man riding a fine horse, Chasing a white hart and bold through the woodland Echoed a hunting cry. And there followed after ten kings and queens Laughing and joking at what they'd seen running Loudly into the bushes. A plume to his helmet, a quiver and a woe There's no place to run now; there's no place to go The hunter is fast and ready. Still further I journeyed though the hills and the valleys Until upon the verge of despair I stopped and rested. And there was a princely knight, sitting by our lady, And this she did say; And may I ask you kind Sir, where you are going? And pray tell to me, Sir, why you do hurry? Strange the way she leads you there; 'Come sit by me' And have you a magic horn to deliver? --- At that point, I gave it up. I would really like some comments on the transcription anyway, and I hope it can be of some help to complete Richard Bridges version.
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Subject: RE: The Hunting Song From: clj cljones@uswestmail.net Date: 09 Aug 99 - 03:38 PM I think they should be added to the db. This seems to be a somewhat rarely sung song. Perhaps it took a Pentangle to pull it off. If it were included, others may be able to revise it if it needs it; i.e. my ear hears "I'm off to war in my armour", Richard's version seeming a bit blunt not to mention uncomfortable (as portrayed in the movie 'Excalibur' of some years ago). This is not to imply it isn't accurate. The Stubborn Swede's beginning seems to capture of the poetic imagery a song of this age ought to have. I can not thank you enough for this. Of course, this could be resolved if Jacqui McShee or Bert Jansch could just jump in on this thread. P.S. What is the deal with the 'Magic Horn'? |
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Subject: RE: The Hunting Song From: Richard Bridge Date: 10 Aug 99 - 02:08 PM I suspect the magic horn is what you need to whore in your armour. |
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Subject: RE: The Hunting Song From: GUEST,Todd Siders Date: 17 Jun 03 - 03:50 AM And here I tried to research this dilemma myself, and this thread shows up. I emailed someone at Pentangle's official website but no one bothered to reply. I cannot imagine it is that difficult, but judging from the Whores in Armor, I'd say our quest is not yet over.. |
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Subject: Lyr Add: THE HUNTING SONG From: GUEST,ClaireBear Date: 16 Aug 04 - 06:24 PM Found these lyrics today as I was looking for songs about King Arthur for another thread. Thought I'd add 'em here, but do try to go to the Web site where I got the lyrics for many footnotes and insights on alternate lyric possibilities and esoteric minutiae. I didn't lift those since they're under the site owner's copyright. The notes included here were from an e-mail that he received, so presumably not under his copyright. At any rate he is to be greatly praised for having the patience to tackle documenting this lyric! You'll find Mr. Johnson's page here. THE HUNTING SONG Transcribed from Pentangle's "Early Classics" by Doug Johnson, October 2002 As I did travel all on a journey Over the wayside and under a dark moon Hanging above a mountain I spied a young man riding a fine horse Chasing a white hart and all through the woodland Head of a hunting party And there followed after ten kings and queens Laughing and joking, the white hart they'd seen Bloodied running into the bushes A plume to his helmet, a quiver and a bow There's nowhere to run now, there's no place to go The hunt is cast and ready Still farther I journeyed through the hills and the valleys Until upon the verge of despair I sat and rested And there did pass a princely knight poursuite by a lady And this she did say: "Oh may I ask you kind sir where you are going? And pray tell unto me sir why you do hurry Strange that I should meet you here, come sit by me. "I have here a magic horn to deliver And one drop from this silver and gold horn I hold, sir Shall prove all to be false, lovers beware!" "The gift that you bear for your brother the king I gladly would carry to the banquet this even' What fair sport this would be for the maidens at court." Wearily I crossed the stream to the castle Where I found shelter from the cold wintry wind And food did I have and plenty But the Lord and Lady seemed so sad For these words they did say unto each other: "My good lord, all off to war in thy armor Leaving me here alone to weep and to worry Take care lest misadventure Shall overcome thy kindly heart My good lord, all off to war in thy armor." "My lady, you have no need for to worry I'll return victorious and true unto thee Take care, lest misadventure Shall stain your heart and lead to woe My fair lady you have no need for to worry." . . . la la la . . . While underneath the spreading oak A knight with white device Upon a shield of black, And deep in grief and sorrow sings His unrequited love "Young noblewoman riding by, Pray tell me have you seen Queen Azelda the fairest maid, In company she rides For I swear to have revenge." A thousand days have come and passed, The Lord returns this night The victor from the bloody wars Proven his fearsome might As ever he would claim But fate has played its wanton game, The circle come full turn The magic horn has done its work, Cried "Falseness is found out!" The sorrowed quest is over. ~ ~ ~ As I understand from the LP jacket, the song was based on the story of the journey of the magic horn prepared by Morgan le Fay, King Arthur's sorceress half-sister. The horn could not be drunk from by an adulteress without spilling wine therefrom. She sent one of her knights with the horn to Camelot where she hoped to lay a trap for Queen Guinnevere (cheating with Sir Lancelot), but the horn was side-tracked by Sir Lamarok to King Mark's Cornish court where it was drunk from by Queen Isolde (who had been two-timing with Sir Tristram) and all the other ladies at court (few passed the test). The Book of Sir Tristram of Lyoness in Le Morte d'Arthur has the tale. Knights of the Round Table kind of stuff. Fake traditional, but effective. The La-La part is a wordless version of a traditional round known at one time... in the eastern U.S. and probably of English origin. Also, the song is hard to figure out because the values of courtly love and martial behavior have been suppressed by cultural changes in the last 40 years. People tend to divorce rather than kill adulterers. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Hunting Song (Pentangle) From: GUEST,BigDaddy Date: 19 Feb 13 - 02:51 PM Shouldn't "Queen Azelda" be "Queen Isolde"? |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Hunting Song (Pentangle) From: Mick Pearce (MCP) Date: 20 Feb 13 - 06:01 AM On both the Basket of Light and the BBC live recording at youtube, he seems to be actually singing Iselde, which may be just the way he sang Isolde. I don't know if the Early Classics version is deliberately different from the Basket of Light recording, but there are several differences (some minor, some not) between the above transcription and that. Below is my transcription from Basket of Light, with a couple of differences in the live BBC recording ca 1970 that's on youtube. Mick THE HUNTING SONG As I did travel all on a journey Over the wayside and under a dark moon Hanging above a mountain. I spied a young man riding a fine horse, Chasing a white hart and all through the woodland, Head of a hunting cry. And there followed after ten kings and queens, Laughing and joking, the white hart they'd seen, Lord, running into the bushes. A plume to his helmet, a quiver and a bow. There's nowhere to run now, there's no place to go The hunter is past and ready Still farther I journeyed through the hills and the valleys, Until upon the verge of despair I sat and rested. And there did pass a princely knight pursued by a lady, And this she did say: "Oh may I ask you kind sir where you are going? And pray tell to me sir why you do hurry? Strange that I should meet you here, come sit by me. "I have here a magic horn to deliver. And one drop from this silver and gold horn I hold, sir Shall prove all to be false, lovers beware!" "The gift that you bear for your brother the king I gladly would carry to the banquet this ev'ning What fair sport this would be for the maidens at court." Wearily I crossed the stream to a castle, Where I found shelter from the cold wintry wind, And food did I have in plenty But the Lord and Lady seemed so sad, For these words they did say unto each other: "My good lord, all off to war in thy armour, Leaving me here alone to weep and to worry. Take care lest misadventure Shall overcome thy kindly heart, My good lord, all off to war in thy armour." "My lady, you have no need for to worry, I'll return victorious and true unto thee. Take care, lest misadventure Shall stain(steal-BBC) your heart and lead to woe My lady you have no need for to worry." Instrumental + La,la to "Hey, ho, nobody home" All underneath the spreading oak A knight with white device Upon a shield of black, And deep in grief and sorrow sings His unrequited love. "Young noblewoman riding by, Pray tell me have you seen Queen Isolde the fairest maid, In company she rides For I swear to have revenge." A thousand days have come and passed, The Lord returned this night A victor from the bloody wars Proven his force and might Is all that he would (could-BBC) claim But fate has played its wanton game, The circle come full turn The magic horn has done its work, Her falseness is found out!" Good Sir your quest is over. Source: Pentangle, Basket of Light (and few differences in ca1970 BBC recording) |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Hunting Song (Pentangle) From: freda underhill Date: 20 Feb 13 - 10:27 AM the BBC recording.. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Hunting Song (Pentangle) From: MGM·Lion Date: 20 Feb 13 - 01:06 PM As I understand from the LP jacket, the song was based on the story of the journey of the magic horn prepared by Morgan le Fay, King Arthur's sorceress half-sister. The horn could not be drunk from by an adulteress without spilling wine therefrom. She sent one of her knights with the horn to Camelot where she hoped to lay a trap for Queen Guinnevere (cheating with Sir Lancelot), but the horn was side-tracked by Sir Lamarok to King Mark's Cornish court where it was drunk from by Queen Isolde (who had been two-timing with Sir Tristram) and all the other ladies at court (few passed the test). - Claire Bear 16 Aug 04 Some relationship presumably to The Boy & The Mantle, Child 29, in which, as synopsised in Wikipedia, "A boy comes to King Arthur's court with an enchanted mantle that can not be worn by an unfaithful wife. Guinevere dons it, and so does every other lady in the court; only one can wear it, and only after she confesses to kissing her husband before their marriage. Other boys also bring a wild boar, that can not be cut by a cuckold's knife, and a cup that a cuckold can not drink from without spilling it, and these also reveal that every wife at court has been unfaithful." (This ballad was supposedly sung by Mrs Durbeyfield to the infant Tess in Hardy's "Tess of the D'Urbervilles" - symbolically appropriate but highly unlikely, as it was probably never a sung ballad:- if interested in this aspect, see my article "'Traditional' Lullabies in Victorian Fiction" on p 319 of Notes & Queries (OUP) Sep 1988.) ~M~ |
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