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Subject: More BS From: Alice Date: 07 May 99 - 09:26 PM Have at it, Mudcatters. This is kind of on the same track as.... well, as all the diverse, wandering, humorous and witty threads we have rambled through together.
Art, oh, Art, where art thou?
... so, my grandpa, Earl McConnell, who was a prospector on the Yellowstone River near Gardiner, MT, used to live in a cave at one time. He had a big bull snake that lived in the cave with him. He would tell how it enjoyed him picking it up and holding it, 'cause it liked the warmth of his hands. Well, it kept the mice away, which also kept down the rattlesnake population. (Do pet bull snakes need a litter box for the b.s.?) Anyway, that was the same excuse he had in his last years when he let the cat population at his shack grow to 67. (kept the rattlesnake population down) I have his fiddle. He used to play Soldier's Joy, Money Musk, etc, and sing, When You and I Were Young, Maggie. (My grandma's name was Maggie.) The other night at the Irish session, the young woman who plays upright bass was chatting with me at the end of the evening, and, as it turned out, she was raised in Gardiner. (Aron Strange, are you reading this?) The place on the Yellowstone where my Grandpa McConnell's claim used to be is now where they launch the float boats on the river. She once used to work on the river rafts. She is too young to have known my grandpa, but she had to ask me if all the myths about him were true. As she explains, the river guides have made up lots of BS about my grandpa, and tell tall tails about him to the tourists. Well, she said, you have to think of something to tell them while you're floating the river. |
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Subject: RE: More BS From: campfire Date: 07 May 99 - 09:41 PM Alice - If I'm not mistaken, Art is being, in something close to his words, "retuned at the Mayo." I sure hope they don't take the sharp edges off! Isn't it great to hear OTHER people tell stories about your family? I run into that at the lake I go to in Northern Wisconsin. My grandparents lived there for many many, years, and now I often hear tales of a sweet white-haired lady who used to live on the other side of the lake. She used to know all the best fishin' spots, sing hymns while doing the wash (in the lake, in those days) and have all the remedies for what-ails-ya. I get to nod and say, "Yes, I know, she was my grandma". campfire |
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Subject: RE: More BS From: Alice Date: 07 May 99 - 09:50 PM ha! I just read what I wrote ..."tall tails"... I'm imagining monkeys with their tails straight up in the air. |
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Subject: RE: More BS From: campfire Date: 07 May 99 - 10:06 PM Depends on how far back you can trace your family, I guess.... |
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Subject: RE: More BS From: Tucker Date: 07 May 99 - 10:10 PM Alice, I am reminded of some photos, innocent as they are of some sailors sitting with some pristine ladies on a seashore sometime in 1918. I only saw them recently, my grandparents are both now dead, but these pics would put my grandmother into rage....no one has said why........... |
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Subject: RE: More BS From: Alice Date: 07 May 99 - 11:31 PM Tucker... your grandpa was a sailor, or none of the ladies was grandma? family mystery? |
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Subject: RE: More BS From: Rick Fielding Date: 08 May 99 - 12:03 AM During a visit to Scotland Heather told me that one of her relatives left his wife (very) suddenly. The cause: a bowl of porridge! They won't give any more details. Talk about a family mystery. Maybe it's a Glaswegian thing, and they think I just wouldn't get it. |
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Subject: RE: More BS From: katlaughing Date: 08 May 99 - 12:06 AM maybe it was "peas" porridge!? Eeewwwwhhh! |
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Subject: RE: More BS From: Sandy Paton Date: 08 May 99 - 12:42 AM Especially if it was "nine days old!" Okay, I'll get into this one. My father was always a puritanical, straight-laced tee-totaler. An atheist who went to church regularly because he enjoyed singing in the choir, and then would argue with the preacher afterwards. I was 12 years old before I heard him swear. He bashed his head viciously on a metal rod and said "Damn!" Shocked me. You get the picture. In the early 1950s, I was living in a houseboat on Portage Bay in Seattle, enjoying a wild, "bohemian" life (we didn't have hippies back then). I met a merchant seaman who mentioned that he had shipped one year with the Coast and Geodetic Survey to the Alieutians. "What ship," I asked. "The Explorer," he replied. "My God," I said, that's a coincidence. My father was the Exec on that ship." "No shit!" he cried, "'Mother Paton' was your father?" Turns out I had remembered Dad complaining about what a drunken crew he had to deal with that year. After putting into one of the island ports (Kodiak Island?) he said he could get no work out of the crew for days afterward, as they were all suffering from terrible hangovers. So he went through the lockers and confiscated all the booze; through it over the rail. Some kind of a miracle that he ever made it back to Seattle! Well, he may not have been a sweet, hymn-singing grandmother, but he did manage to become a legend of a sort among the roughnecks of the Seattle waterfront. In two weeks, I'll be heading down to Virginia Beach to help the old guy celebrate his 100th birthday. He wants to hang on another year, so he will be able to say he lived in three centuries (he was born, obviously, in 1899). Sandy |
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Subject: RE: More BS From: Rick Fielding Date: 08 May 99 - 12:49 AM Man, I wish I had your genes, Sandy. I feel like I'm just gettin warmed up! |
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Subject: RE: More BS From: Alice Date: 08 May 99 - 12:50 AM Good for him, Sandy.
funny that I should have made that slip about 'tall tails' instead of 'tales'. I was telling this young musician some true things about my grandpa, so she could dispel the myths. He was able to quote long poems he had memorized. One that I remember was about the monkey (or ape) explaining that they could not be related to man, because they did not treat each other so cruelly. Does anyone recognize this poem, and can you give me the title and reference? alice |
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Subject: RE: More BS From: puzzled Date: 08 May 99 - 12:52 AM my grandparents were raised in the back woods of the Ozarks. there is a picture taken by an itinerate photographer of my grand father as a teenager with his four brothers hitched to the front of a plow and my great grandfather behind the plow. lucky enough to have known my great granfather he once told me while we looked at that picture that he sure was glad that times got better and that he was able to afford a horse by the time his boys had grown up and left home. My grandfather's response was that he was glad that he grew up with enough sense to move far enough away so that he wouldn't be around at plowing time. My great grandparents kept a BIG bullsnake around the farm yard "to eat the timber rattlers" also. I never really knew if that worked or if it was just one of those old tales. but i remember as a kid hearing Great grandma scream as if she had been shot when she would step on or trip over that snake as she went out to hang up the laundry. We kids would run around the house and she the laundry spilled on the yard and grandma holding her hand over her heart saying through her clinched teeth. "thank you for being her and protecting the younguns." then she would storm off to the house hollering, "y'all kids get that laundry hung up and bring me in that basket." We weren't allowed to laugh. that snake was very tame. |
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Subject: RE: More BS From: katlaughing Date: 08 May 99 - 01:42 AM Alice, it must've been that generation. My dad and his dad could qoute reams of poetry. Dad told me the other day that when they were out working on the ranch together, when he was a kid, that a whole morning would pass with them speaking back and forth only in quotes. My granddad was self-educated and very well. His favourites and my dad's were/are Kipling, Scott, Service, Longfellow, Badger Clark and many others. BTW - in the mre BS category....we spotted one of the elusive poodles herds of Wyoming the other night. Itw as pretty bright out because of the full moon; that's also when they are mst likely to run wild and free across the lone prairee. Anyway, this herd looked like ghost riders in the sky. They was all white and about the size of a yearling calf, each one o'em. And, run! I mean ta tell yew, the was running so fast, in theblink of an eye they was clear across the county, which is 65 miles away! We heard, but couldn't see, a heleecopter following. we was wondering if'n they was rounding them up the way they do them wild broncos? Sure hopes not, cause we's gitting ready to open up are own toureest trap, where them city folk c=kin come pay for a night ride out ta the latest siting. Now, don' be telling inny one, but we done captured ourselfs a couple ofthem wild poodle. Lawd! They's big enough to belong to paul Bunyan. Anyhow, we's gots us a nice little herd breeding up, what we kin run in a enclosed fenced in prairie patch, so's we can guarandamntee them tourists a siting of the rare herds of poodles of Wyomin'. Ain't nobody, nowhere can do tha same. We gonna be rollin in dough, ordering up soem of them tiples from up north and asking Reg, Reg, and Reg ta join us and bring Paw and Cltus, too, if'n they can spring Reg from the Neil Young Center up thar in Montanee. Watch for them herds,now. 'Member, full moon nights, flashing of silvery white, legs jist ablur o motion, dashing round the sagebrush and leaping o'er the head opf them prairee dawgs, yipping and howling jist like a coytay, BUT LOTS bigger. And, 'member, do not approach them. These here are wild aneemals and we's got to respect their place in tha good lord's scheme of things. So, come on up, we'll leave the light on fer ya and ya gotta keep all camera and lassos at home, but, uh...we DO take credit cards! The above has been a paid for announcement and is meant strictly for entertainment purposes. Please call 1-888-Wyldawgs for more information; ask for the Kat who's not afraid to herd them dawgs and tell 'er Orly sentcha. -END PAID COMMERCIAL ANNOUNCEMENT - |
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Subject: RE: More BS From: Alice Date: 08 May 99 - 11:45 AM kat, I'll let my Park Service maintenance friend who is returning to his seasonal job in Yellowstone know of your alert. He'll have to watch out when he goes around turning on all the geysers again. |
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Subject: RE: More BS From: MMario Date: 08 May 99 - 01:21 PM Growing up, my grandfather was known thorughout the town as "Caruso" - being Italian, I thought nothing of it, until I found out one day his name was actually Gustavo. Turns out that he used to take his evening bath down at the "ol' swimmin' hole" oppisete (sp?) a public park. As he bathed, he would sing - opera mostly from what people remember - and folks would come down with their chairs and have picnic dinners while listening to the "concert". MMario |
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Subject: RE: More BS From: Rick Fielding Date: 08 May 99 - 01:31 PM Great story Mario. I'd have been there in a flash. Bet he took requests as well!
Here in Toronto we used to have a chef at a restaurant who sang opera from the kitchen. The diners would applaud from their tables and he'd come out brandishing his chopping knife and bow. He later got a tv show and became quite popular. Still cooked and sang! |
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Subject: RE: More BS From: Sandy Paton Date: 08 May 99 - 02:44 PM Anybody ever drop in at "Singin' Sam's" roadside hash house near Dove Creek, Colorado (pinto bean capitol of the world!). Looked for it last time we drove through, but Sam was gone, the name had changed, and somebody else was greasing up the pots. Sam worked right behind the counter, frying up your 'burger, singing all the while. Show tunes, pop standards of an earlier time, and all the good old songs we used to sing around the piano on a Sunday night. Damn' good singer, too, Sam was. He was delighted when we joined in, adding harmonies. We seemed to make his day for him, as he did for ours. Sandy |
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Subject: RE: More BS From: Alice Date: 08 May 99 - 04:08 PM Mario, Rick, and Sandy, I love those stories. I used to work in a store in an old building that had very high tin ceilings. It was an interior design and plant store. It was usually quiet when I was there, and I was often the only one in there, while I watered plants and re-arranged merchandise. It was a great place to sing opera! I would be surprised by turning around and seeing a quiet audience of customers who had just walked in. |
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Subject: RE: More BS From: bet Date: 08 May 99 - 04:56 PM Sandy. can't believe you've been to Sam's. It's really close to my old stomping grounds, Nucla. (that's at the end of the highway) close to Naturita. I guess I should say close if you think 1 hr. 30 min. is close. When you life in Nucla you expect to drive 2 hrs. for anything. I left that area 15 years ago after spending 14 or 15 years in that area. I've lost track. I don't have any news about Sam, wish I knew something. Oh darn the Phillies just took the lead 2 to 3 , those Rockies will come back soon. I think I need to go finish watching this game. more later. Great to remember. bet |
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Subject: RE: More BS From: DennisM Date: 08 May 99 - 08:44 PM Alice, is this your monkey poem. |
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Subject: RE: More BS From: Alice Date: 08 May 99 - 08:49 PM Is What, Dennis? |
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Subject: RE: More BS From: DennisM Date: 08 May 99 - 08:50 PM Three monkey's sat in a coconut tree, discussing things as they said to be. Said one to another now listen you two, theres a certain rumor that can't be true. That man descended from our noble race, the very idea is a disgrace. Have you ever heard of a mother monk leave her babies with others to bunk and pass tghem on from one another until they hardly know their mother. And another think you'll nver see, a monk build a fence around a coconut tree, and let the coconuts go to waste, forbidding all other monks a tast. YES - MAN descended, the ornery cuss, BUT BROTHER, HE CERTAINLY DID'NT DESCEND FROM US. |
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Subject: RE: More BS From: Alice Date: 08 May 99 - 09:22 PM YES!!! I think that's it!! I definitely remember the part about the mother monk, but I thought the whole thing was longer. THANKS Dennis! alice |
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Subject: RE: More BS From: Allan C. Date: 10 May 99 - 08:08 AM Alice, what I can't figure out is why there isn't a "Ballad of Earl McConnell". Sounds like great material to me. If I knew as many stories about him as you probably do, I would write it myself. Why don't you give it a try? |
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Subject: RE: More BS From: Alice Date: 10 May 99 - 08:52 AM someday, Allan, someday |
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Subject: RE: More BS From: Cara Date: 10 May 99 - 12:26 PM My grandfather raised raceforses, and before he did that he learned the trade by training horses in Tennessee. Now, for the privilege of learning horse handling he was given room and board, but not much else, and he needed pocket money, so he hit upon an idea for filling a need in the county where he lived. You see, the county was dry. so grandpa became a bootlegger, selling liquor out of his car, and running it in from wet counties in Ohio. well, apparently the other gentlemen who were involved in the liquor trade didn't take kindly to competition, so they jumped poor young Floyd and beat him up good. He hightailed it back to Newark (Ahia) and showed up at my grandmother's door with a proposal. This story was told to me about a year ago by my grandpa. My g-ma was there too, listening while she made lunch, and when he got to the part about leaving Tennessee because he was chased out by hoodlums, she snapped her head up and said accusingly, "Floyd, you said you came back because you missed me!" He only chuckled, but he's been a lot more stingy with the stories... |
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Subject: RE: More BS From: Alice Date: 11 May 99 - 10:45 AM What strikes me about our discussions here is the number of people who carry on making music in a family tradition. We are mostly of an age who had parents, grandparents, older relatives, and some of us ourselves, who created home entertainment before the era of mass media. I started this thread describing the discussion after the session the other night. The mandolin player and I, in our 40's, and the bass player, in her 20's, were trading stories about our 'family' music experiences and the influence on us now. The mandolin player recounted that his uncle would play the fiddle for 2 hours after dinner every night. When his son got a TV, he required that it be in the bedroom, so it wouldn't interfere with the after dinner fiddle playing. I am hoping that even in this expanded era of media, the internet, we don't lose that home made experience for children. (good post by Ivy on the millenium thread) For people to be able to be in touch with each other around the world, I think it is an encouragement to us, as well as the wealth of information exchange, and makes it easier to continue on the traditions of home made musical entertainment. |
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