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Subject: Lloyd George Lyrics From: Seumas Date: 22 Apr 99 - 05:59 AM I remember a line from a song about Lloyd George who introduced the Old Age Pension in the UK. But I'm stuffed if I can recall the title or rest of the lyrics! Anybody know it? The line went something like: "Oh he took me out of the workhouse, and gave me life that's free. 5 shillings a week for cheating death, That's what Lloyd George gave me." Cheers Seumas |
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Subject: RE: Lloyd George Lyrics From: rich-joy Date: 04 Feb 03 - 04:47 AM I know Tony Capstick did this on "His Round" LP ... anyone have the lyrics yet??? Cheers! R-J |
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Subject: RE: Lloyd George Lyrics From: GUEST,MCP Date: 04 Feb 03 - 05:03 AM I have these. I'll post in a while. Mick |
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Subject: Lyr Add: LLOYD GEORGE From: GUEST,MCP Date: 04 Feb 03 - 05:17 AM Here they are, source Tony Capstick. Mick LLOYD GEORGE Well, I'd walk from here to Skipton, ten mile o' clarty lane If I could see him face to face and thank him for his pain. Chorus: Cos he took me out o't' workhouse and he give me life that's free Five shilling a week for cheating death is what Lloyd George gives me Well he gives me leet and firin' and flour to bake me bread And tea to mash with every meal and sup until I'm dead. An' I've nowt to do but thank him and make a cross wi't' pen Five shilling a week for nowt but that, ay he's the best of men. Ch Well I don't know much about politics but I do love that lord For he spends his savings like a king when other folks is lowered And I know lots of old fellers who are past their seventieth year Lloyd George he addles brass for them to buy a sup o' beer. Ch Well if my old man were here today he'd say that I spoke true Though he never liked them Liberal lot and he alla's voted Blue. But t'parson's wife she telt me that soon we're going to't' poll Oh, I hope she's right I'll vote for him wi' all me heart and soul. Ch Well I don't know weer he comes from, 'appen it's down Leeds way But every neet and morning for his long life I'll pray. Ch |
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Subject: RE: Lloyd George Lyrics From: GUEST Date: 04 Feb 03 - 05:22 AM Only because Sir Winston Churchill pushed for a system of pension, spurred by concern over the lack of benefits given to his nurse/nanny. |
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Subject: RE: Lloyd George Lyrics From: rich-joy Date: 04 Feb 03 - 05:25 AM Huzzah Mudcat!!! Thanks (yet again) Mick - and so quick too!! Much appreciated. Cheers! R-J |
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Subject: Tune Add: LLOYD GEORGE From: GUEST,MCP Date: 04 Feb 03 - 06:57 AM Thanks r-j. And here's the tune as I remember it (it's probably over 20 years since I last heard it, but this is certainly very close). Mick X: 1 T:Lloyd George M:4/4 L:1/4 S:Tony Capstick K:G "Chorus" G/ A/|B d d B|B< A- A w:Cos he took me out o't' work-house_ G/ A/|B d d B|A3 w:and he give me life that's free G|B/ B/ d d d|e c c w:Five shill-ing a week for cheat-ing death c|B d (c/B/) A|G3|| w:is what Lloyd George_ gives me "Verse" G/ A/|B d d B|B A2 w:Well he gives me leet and fir-in' G|B d d B|A3 w:and flour to bake me bread G|B> d d d|e c c w:And tea to mash with every meal c|B d d B|A3 w:and sup un-til I'm dead. G/ A/|B d d B|B A2 w:An' I've nowt to do but thank him G|B d d B|A3 w:and make a cross wi't' pen G|B/ B/ d d d|e c c w:Five shill-ing a week for nowt but that c|B> d B A|G3|| w:ay he's the best of men |
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Subject: RE: Lloyd George Lyrics From: Pied Piper Date: 04 Feb 03 - 07:05 AM To the tune of "Onward Cristian Soldiers" Lloyd George new my father Father new Lloyd George Lloyd George new my father Father new Lloyd George....... PP |
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Subject: Lyr Add: LORD GEORGE (F. W. Moorman) From: bradfordian Date: 04 Feb 03 - 07:45 AM And in the original dialect here Brad. :o) Lyrics copy-pasted from the link cited above. Lord GeorgeThese verses were written soon after the Old Age Pensions Bill came into operation. I'd walk frae here to Skipton, Ten mile o' clarty lanes, If I might see him face to face An' thank him for his pains. He's ta'en me out o' t' Bastile, He's gi'en me life that's free: Five shill'n a week for fuglin' Death Is what Lord George gives me. He gives me leet an' firin', An' flour to bak i' t' yoon. I've tea to mesh for ivery meal An' sup all t' afternoon. I've nowt to do but thank him, An' mak' a cross wi' t' pen; Five shillin' a week for nobbut that! Gow! he's the jewel o' men. I niver mell on pol'tics, But I do love a lord; He spends his savin's like a king, Wheer other fowks 'll hoard. I know a vast o' widdies That's seen their seventieth year; Lord George, he addles brass for all, Though lots on 't goes for beer. If my owd man were livin', He'd say as I spak true; He couldn't thole them yallow Rads, But awlus voted blue. An' parson's wife, shoo telled me That we'll sooin go to t' poll; I hope shoo's reight; I'll vote for George, Wi' all my heart an' soul. I don't know wheer he springs frae, Happen it's down Leeds way; But ivery neet an' mornin' For his lang life I pray. He's ta'en me out o' t' Bastile, He's gi'en me life that's free: Five shill'n a week for fuglin' Death Is what Lord George gives me.
Notes (arranged alphabetically)
Addles brass : earns money
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Subject: RE: Lloyd George Lyrics From: rich-joy Date: 05 Feb 03 - 02:01 AM thanks 'catters! do they have a known author? cheers! R-J |
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Subject: RE: Lloyd George Lyrics From: Lyndi-loo Date: 05 Feb 03 - 06:36 AM Lloyd Geoge knew my father; thank God he didn't know my mother! |
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Subject: RE: Lloyd George Lyrics From: Nigel Parsons Date: 06 Feb 03 - 04:04 AM Lyndi-loo: Sorry to disappoint you, but the version quoted by Pied Piper above is often longer. To the tune of "Onward Cristian Soldiers" Lloyd George knew my father Father knew Lloyd George Lloyd George knew my father Father knew Lloyd George Lloyd George knew my father Father knew Lloyd George Lloyd George knew my Mother I look like Lloyd George... Nigel |
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Subject: RE: Lloyd George Lyrics From: Snuffy Date: 06 Feb 03 - 09:04 AM Geoff Higginbotham recorded it on The Levenshulme Triangle |
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Subject: RE: Lloyd George Lyrics From: Joe_F Date: 06 Feb 03 - 07:16 PM So there *is* a bawdy version of "Lloyd George Knows My Father"! When I was at Caltech in the 1950s, it was sung at every sufficiently drunken party, but with "father" all the way thru. There, I was confidently told that the knowledge mentioned was carnal. Much later, I read somewhere that in Britain the song was affectionate & was meant to imply that Lloyd George was a man of the people. It somehow found its way to the U.S., where its origin was forgotten, and was popular (I was told) among Girl Scouts. Some college student must have come up with the notion that it was obscene. I am astonished that this curious song seems not to have been previously discussed on the Mudcat. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lloyd George From: Phil Edwards Date: 28 Jan 09 - 09:41 AM What's this then? It's a live recording of Tony Capstick singing Lloyd George (the '5/- a week' song), which the poster seems to think is from ...Does a Turn_ - which it ain't. Anyone know where this is from, or who 'pinknblues1' might be when he's at home? |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lloyd George From: Phil Edwards Date: 28 Jan 09 - 09:42 AM Oops. I meant to say, what's this then? |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lloyd George From: r.padgett Date: 28 Jan 09 - 12:17 PM Not sure where this was actually recorded but was a TC favourite The tune is unofficially attributed to Walter Greaves the armed blacksmith and racing cyclist ~ there is a thread on here somewhere re Walter Its on yorkshirefolksong.net obviously! sung by the much missed Richard Wastling pinkandblues1 is a nickname for a chap on youtube who I think comes from Australia, who must have posted something on the youtube website Ray |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lloyd George From: GUEST,rossmcl177 Date: 07 Feb 09 - 12:40 AM pinknblkues1 is a very friendly guy - I am the one who wrote to him on youtube and requested that he post this song! He had posted some other Capstick stuff, but I remembered this song from my youth, so I wrote to him asking if he had it and if so would he post it. He sent me back a really nice message straight away, and did post the song - very friendly nice guy. I wish someone knew who wrote the song though. :) |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lloyd George From: Phil Edwards Date: 07 Feb 09 - 04:56 AM Ross - the 'Professor Moorman' referred to in the notes is the author. Here's the title page & foreword of the book it appears in: SONGS OF THE RIDINGS BY F. W. MOORMAN EDITOR OF "YORKSHIRE DIALECT POEMS, 1673-1915' LONDON ELKIN MATHEWS, CORK STREET 1918 I DEDICATE THIS VOLUME TO THE YORKSHIRE MEMBERS OF THE WORKERS' EDUCATIONAL ASSOCIATION PREFACE ABOUT two years ago I published a collection of Yorkshire dialect poems, chosen from many authors and extending over a period of two hundred and fifty years. The volume was well received, and there are abundant signs that the interest in dialect literature is steadily growing in all parts of the county and beyond its borders. What is most encouraging is to find that the book has found an entrance into the homes of Yorkshire peasants and artisans where the works of our great national poets are unknown. I now essay the more venturesome task of publishing dialect verses of my own. Most of the poems contained in this little volume have appeared, anonymously, in the Yorkshire press, and I have now decided to reissue them in book form and with my name on the title-page. [endquote] Found here. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lloyd George From: GUEST Date: 07 Feb 09 - 02:46 PM oh i c. that's great - thankyou pip, and I see someone has rcently put another version of the song on youtube. It's the same recording of Cappstick singing it, but the video is a bit more imaginative, showing pictures of Lloyd George etc. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGBm7_VKtw4 :-) rm |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lloyd George From: goatfell Date: 07 Feb 09 - 03:05 PM my dad used to sing that song about Llyod Geroge knowing my father |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lloyd George From: Steve Gardham Date: 07 Feb 09 - 04:39 PM Both 'Lord George' and 'The Dalesman's Litany' by F W Moorman are on the Yorkshire Garland website with recordings by Rick Wastling and Ray Padgett, full texts and scores, and full histories/provenances. They were never part of the old oral tradition but have become a very important part of the folk scene tradition. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lord George / Lloyd George From: GUEST,Al's Wife Date: 24 Nov 10 - 10:12 PM Joe -- You say you were at Caltech in the 50s. Fleming? Is your name a homonym for Richard F? Lloyd George knew his father too! |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lord George / Lloyd George From: GUEST,padgett sans cookie Date: 25 Nov 10 - 04:22 AM Tune was I thought put to it by the one armed blacksmith from Dewsbury, Walter Greaves who was also a keen cyclist I had a little "discussion" with Ray Hearne about the tune which he has used for one of his songs (tune he got from TCs recording of Lloyd George) Didnt know Winny had anything to do with the OAP 5 shilling a week for men over 70 The Act was 1908 payable from Jan 1st 1909 for the record Ray |
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