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Cacophony?

Penny 15 Mar 99 - 05:57 PM
katlaughing 15 Mar 99 - 06:43 PM
katlaughing 15 Mar 99 - 06:48 PM
Penny 16 Mar 99 - 01:47 AM
Penny 16 Mar 99 - 11:55 AM
j0_77 16 Mar 99 - 12:35 PM
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AlistairUK 16 Mar 99 - 01:46 PM
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Subject: Cacophony?
From: Penny
Date: 15 Mar 99 - 05:57 PM

A colleague of musical education told me last week, as we tried to combine two classes singing for Red Nose Day, that there was a technical term for a group singing the same tune but with subtle variations, and it wasn't the above, or chaos, or rubbish, but applied quite properly to such gatherings as folk clubs or football crowds. Having whetted my interest, he could not remember this term, apparently Latin. Does anyone know?


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Subject: RE: Cacophony?
From: katlaughing
Date: 15 Mar 99 - 06:43 PM

Penny,

How about concordia discors?

By the way, I've much enjoyed your postings about the chalk figures and place names in England. Thanks for sharing.

katlaughing


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Subject: RE: Cacophony?
From: katlaughing
Date: 15 Mar 99 - 06:48 PM

Should've added that Concordia was the ancient Roman goddess of harmony or peace, but you probably already knew that.

If what I posted is not what you're looking for, let me know and I'll ask my brother, who is a composer and Latin scholar. His Latin is not near as rusty as mine is!

katlaughing


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Subject: RE: Cacophony?
From: Penny
Date: 16 Mar 99 - 01:47 AM

Thanks, sounds likely. And what we sang wasn't that bad, despite only two days for practice. the children then re-invented broadsheets, by going round the playground selling the words, and singing them to potential customers. I'm not sure if it demonstration, though, or if it was "If you don't buy, we won't stop."


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Subject: RE: Cacophony?
From: Penny
Date: 16 Mar 99 - 11:55 AM

Sorry, he says that wasn't it, it's probably Greek, and may begin with h.

And thanks for the compliment - I've read quite a few of your postings, and appreciate your appreciation.

I've found another titbit about the Giant, which the writer didn't realise might have the significance it seems to. Coming later.


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Subject: RE: Cacophony?
From: j0_77
Date: 16 Mar 99 - 12:35 PM

As Penny already pointed to the Greek - like to add the ending certainly is. 'Phon...' Don't now have a Lexicon so I can not look it up, but I do know it is there. Oh my memory is getting bad :(


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Subject: RE: Cacophony?
From: Animaterra
Date: 16 Mar 99 - 01:26 PM

Meanwhile, Penny, as one music educator to another: what in the world is Red Nose Day?????


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Subject: RE: Cacophony?
From: AlistairUK
Date: 16 Mar 99 - 01:46 PM

Red Nose day is a charity day on the BBC run by a group of comedians,,,it's being going for about 10 years now I think and everybody is to wear red clown noses


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Subject: RE: Cacophony?
From: AlistairUK
Date: 16 Mar 99 - 02:09 PM

sorry that should have read...been going on...


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Subject: RE: Cacophony?
From: katlaughing
Date: 16 Mar 99 - 05:08 PM

Penny,

From my brother: heterophony.

From my dictionary: the simultaneous performance of the same melodic line, with slight individual variations, by two or more performers

WordRUS aka katlaughing!


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Subject: RE: Cacophony?
From: Penny
Date: 16 Mar 99 - 05:42 PM

Thanks, that must be it! My colleague did classics, and can usually come up with things like that, but I think he's been a bit distracted as his mother isn't well. We were wandering around this morning saying it must end with phony, then, what's mixed in Greek? And neither of us could come up with it. It's not as though its an unusual prefix, is it?

And the comedians try to get huge numbers of the populace involved in doing silly things to raise money, which appeals particularly to children. They then have a marathon comedy evening on TV, seeking pledges for celebrities to do silly things, which late in the evening gets rather adult. The money goes to help relieve poverty in Africa and in the UK as well, and it's well known for most of the money going for what it's raised for. This year their dratted red noses had hooters in them, and the children found out that these came out, and they were blowing through them like a bunch of Punches with swozzles. Hard to teach, though. And someone's left red greasepaint on my computers in the IT suite! My year had written parodies of verses of the Cutty Wren (which mentions red noses), which we sang in assembly, despite being asked to stop - there were a lot of verses, and because the tune is rather complex in the intervals it uses, neither of us teachers had got it quite right, nor wrong in the same way. Hence the heterophony!


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Subject: RE: Cacophony?
From: Bert
Date: 17 Mar 99 - 01:26 PM

Penny,

Were you just waiting for an answer so that you could tell that story??

Bert.


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Subject: RE: Cacophony?
From: Penny
Date: 17 Mar 99 - 07:41 PM

No


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