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Subject: Folk on 2 versus Mike Harding From: Al Date: 08 Mar 99 - 09:11 AM Whatever happen to Jim Lloyd and Folk on 2, BBC radio 2 weds nights? WHen I was last in the UK this was a good mixture of UK folk music, live & recorded, with occasional forays into other arenas. Mike Harding, a first clas entertainer in his own right, seems to have turned this slot into a mixture of country & western and electrified celtic influenced pop, with the occasional mention of World music. I'm sure its very popoular, but has lost a lot in the change. Where's the music one can hear in the few clubs and the festivals?
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Subject: RE: Folk on 2 From: The Shambles Date: 08 Mar 99 - 01:44 PM The simple answer to this is that it is surely impossible to cater for all tastes, in the 1 hour per week that the BBC devotes to Folk Music. The answer I would suggest is to contact the BBC and make a case for more programmes to be made. |
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Subject: RE: Folk on 2 From: Dr John Date: 08 Mar 99 - 04:43 PM Jim Lloyd has retired now. Yes, it was a very good hour and featured live performances of people like Dave Burland, Isla StClair, Martyn Wyndham Reed, Jeffs Warner and Davis and many others as well as recordings past and present of performers from both sides of the Atlantic. There was always at least one thing that I liked: not so with the present Mike Harding programme. There was often another folk programme (often on a topic of some sort)as well on Wednesday night which was well worth listening to and presented by people like Martin Carthy, Maddy Prior and ... Mike Harding! When he presented these programmes they were very good. What went wrong, I wonder. |
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Subject: RE: Folk on 2 From: Kernow John Date: 08 Mar 99 - 06:24 PM Bring back Jim Lloyd. To be fair Ralph McTell had this slot before Mike and if anything I think his choice of music was worse. Regards Baz |
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Subject: RE: Folk on 2 From: Jo Taylor Date: 08 Mar 99 - 06:43 PM Loved Folk on 2. Once again the school friends thought me rather odd. Didn't Wally Whyton present it at one time or was that Country Meets Folk? (Showing my age there!) I filled up many old reel to reel tapes with stuff recorded from both - probably still got them somewhere - I remember Noel Murphy, Jacqui & Bridie, Johnny Silvo, the Dransfields etc all as regulars...the 'acceptable face' of folk music which maybe made many people listen who would not have otherwise done so. Jo |
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Subject: RE: Folk on 2 From: Wotcha Date: 08 Mar 99 - 07:18 PM The BBC (could it have been Radio 4?) did lots to stimulate my own interest in folk music years ago about the time some kids in the UK were begining early piercing experiments with safety pins ... I remember tuning in, when I ought to have been swotting for O Levels, to some rather diverse shows that really explored musical tradition in depth -- I followed a series presented by George Hamilton IV and it covered ancient recordings of blues and folk (including the original words to Big Rock Candy Mountain, the Irish origins of Marty Robbins "Streets of Laredo," and the various versions of "Waxies Dargle" as it made its way from Ireland to the Wild West), to a Marty Robbins concert (if only I had taped it in 1976 ... better than the memorial stuff around today). Well at least in the States we have Shamrock and Thistle (from Charlotte NC of all places -- not many highlands there) and Prairie Home Companion (another flat place) to keep things going. I haven't gotten around to seeing what the BBC has put on its commercial sales list but I suspect not much folk is on their tapes and records: which may explain why Peter Kennedy took his 50s recordings for the BBC and contributed them to The Traditions Centre. Cheers, Brian |
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Subject: RE: Folk on 2 From: Ritchie Date: 09 Mar 99 - 07:21 AM I think there is a programme on radio 2 on either a thurs or friday night 'round about 9 ish, I've listened to it whilst out walking the dog. I think it's presented by Henry Lloyd, why I think that I don't know!! but there it is!! Last month I went to see Gillian Welch, who gave a first class performance,very professional & entertaining and the support/warm up act asked who had first heard Gillian on radio2...other than me there was complete silence from which was deduced that everyone apart from the fat baldy bloke in the corner was embarrassed to say they listened to radio2. Whispering Bob Harris has a good show on saturday evenings and Johnnie Walkers show on saturday afternoons is good but oh how I'm envious of all the specialist radio shows there are in the States. Ritchie |
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Subject: RE: Folk on 2 From: Dr John Date: 09 Mar 99 - 01:15 PM I agree, Baz, Ralph McTell was even worse. Bring back Jim Lloyd or, if not, perhaps we could do it! |
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Subject: RE: Folk on 2 From: j0_77 Date: 09 Mar 99 - 01:28 PM Just a thought guys if you're in the UK or anywhere else for that matter - you can get web radio and that provides access to many different stations around the world. I listen to Perth Australia, Buenos Aires Argentina, BBC World Service and a couple of others. I live in Oklahoma USA - notice I've to get my US folk radio off the web too because I choose not to have cable. Cable TV costs 20 bucks per month and is not that great really, used to think it was but after trying it I choose a net hook up instead. :) jo77 |
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Subject: RE: Folk on 2 From: Steve Parkes Date: 10 Mar 99 - 03:52 AM Wally Whyton used to present Country meets folk, Jo. (So, we meet again - again!) I think he's dead, as well. (If not, I apologise to him). I've got a couple of his records with the Vipers - 78s! - but nothing more recent. I don't think folk has been taken seriously at the Beeb for a long time. It's not the booming industry it was when we were little, thirty or forty years ago. The local radio stations usually have a folk slot; though I heard there was a move afoot on either WM or BRMB to combine all the folk-ish types and have one multi-ethnic multi-cultural programme. I can't really see reggae arranged for sitar and penny whistle going down a bomb with everybody. (Maybe I shouldn't knock it till I've tried it?!) Steve |
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Subject: RE: Folk on 2 From: Dr John Date: 10 Mar 99 - 02:05 PM Steve, yes Wally Whyton died last year. I agree folk isn't popular at the moment - it used to be and it will be. Hence few or no programmes. An interesting progress: when it becomes popular you have people like the the Kingston Trio arising which purists like me (and many others out there don't like) but it introduces people in general to folk music, and some good ones appear as well: like Kate Rusby recently from that dreadful Equation "folk" group. |
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Subject: RE: Folk on 2 From: Dr John Date: 10 Mar 99 - 02:06 PM Steve, yes Wally Whyton died last year. I agree folk isn't popular at the moment - it used to be and it will be. Hence few or no programmes. An interesting progress: when it becomes popular you have people like the Kingston Trio arising which purists like me (and many others out there don't like)don't like but it introduces people in general to folk music, and some good ones appear as well: like Kate Rusby recently from that dreadful Equation "folk" group. |
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