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Subject: 'Only a half-a-crown' From: D_hand@hotmail.com Date: 21 Jan 99 - 11:43 AM Jimmy O'Dea (I think) use to sing this - also heard Paddy Crosby do it. Anyone know the full lyrics? I brought Miss Linda Lee To see a fancy ball The ticket i bought was two and sixpence I thought that was all But when she asked for supper You might have knocked me down For all the money I had in the world Was only a half-a-crown. |
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Subject: Lyr Add: HALF A CROWN From: Frank Maher Date: 21 Jan 99 - 01:37 PM I took my girl to a fancy ball. It was a social hop. We stayed all night until the break of light, waiting for the music to stop. Into a restaurant we went, the finest on the street. She said she wasn't hungry, but this is what she eat:
A dozen raw potato slaw, a chicken and a roast,
You bet I wasn't hungry. I didn't care to eat.
A glass of ale, a gin cocktail. It made me shake with fear.
You bet I wasn't hungry. I didn't care to eat,
He smashed my nose. He tore my clothes. He hit me on the head, |
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Subject: RE: 'Only a half-a-crown From: Joe Offer Date: 21 Jan 99 - 03:55 PM Aaaaargh! This is going to bug me for days! I heard this song (or a variation) within the last few days, but I can't remember where I heard it. Maybe it was on a cassette Liam's Brother sent me, but I don't know that for sure. I won't be able to sleep until I find that recording again. Ah, it's frustrating. Good song, though. Know of any recordings, other than the one I won't be able to find? Are there other variations of this song? -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: 'Only a half-a-crown@ From: Ian Kirk (inactive) Date: 21 Jan 99 - 05:23 PM Tune! Tune!. Good song I need the tune. Anybody know it? Ian |
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Subject: Lyr Add: THE ONE HALF CROWN From: John Moulden Date: 21 Jan 99 - 05:52 PM This version of the one half crown from the late Sam Dorrens, Coleraine, Northern Ireland: The One Half Crown Oh I took Miss McGinty unto a fancy ball; For ticket I paid two and six, I thought that was all But when she shouted "Supper!" you might have knocked me down; For all the money in the world I had was only half a crown. Now the girl had a wonderful appetite for this what she ate: An oyster raw, a lobster claw, a turkey leg and breast, Ham and tongue for a girl so young; such a cargo she put down; I fell on the floor when she asked for more; I'd just the one half crown. To me it was a settler, I was but a silly lad, When she said she would like to have a drink as her appetite was bad And underneath her overcoat, she must have had a tank Or a second handed brewery for this is what she drank. A bottle of Bass and a good stiff glass of brandy to begin And she drunk a lot o' whiskey hot and a dose of rum and gin Guinness's stout she poured about, a hogshead halfway down I fell on the floor when she asked for more, I'd just the one half crown. Hey the people stared and the waiter glared to see her shift such stuff When she says "Ochone, oh take me home, I think I've had enough." I reached the waiter my half crown, says "I'll be owing you the rest" When he altered the size of my two eyes and jumped upon my chest. He gave me a kick in the small of the back and he shook me into fits He tore my clothes and broke my nose, smashed me up in bits I was hammered and licked and bruised and kicked and chased all round the town I was all swelled up like a poisoned pup and I lost my good half crown. From Sam Dorrens: Morning of 6th May 1980 John Moulden |
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Subject: RE: 'Only a half-a-crown@ From: D_hand@hotmail.com Date: 22 Jan 99 - 04:36 AM Thank-you all for your replies - most helpful |
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Subject: RE: 'Only a half-a-crown@ From: Joe Offer Date: 22 Jan 99 - 06:05 AM I think the version I heard was from the US, and the money was "only fifty cents." I still haven't found it, and I don't see it in the database. Liam's Brother was my only hope, and he says he doesn't recall the song. Can anybody help? -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: 'Only a half-a-crown@ From: Frank Maher Date: 22 Jan 99 - 07:47 AM Hi Joe... You'll find the Words under."Pretty Little Dear" Song Info Jan.20/99 |
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Subject: Lyr Add: I HAD BUT FIFTY CENTS From: Jim Dixon Date: 16 Feb 02 - 02:17 AM Two American versions from the Max Hunter Folk Song Collection, which also sheet music, midi files, and a sound files of the original field recordings.
I HAD BUT FIFTY CENTS
I took my girl to a fancy ball
VERSE 2
I HAD BUT FIFTY CENTS
VERSE 1
VERSE 2
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Subject: Lyr Add: FIFTY CENTS (Mortimer, Lewis) From: Jim Dixon Date: 16 Feb 02 - 02:19 AM And this is probably the source they all sprang from: From the Library of Congress American Memory Collection - my transcription from the sheet music:
FIFTY CENTS
I took my girl to a fancy ball. It was a social hop.
She said so sweet that she was not well and did not care to eat.
I told her that my head did ache and I did not care to eat, [There is a similar version in DigiTrad..] |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: HALF CROWN COIN From: masato sakurai Date: 16 Feb 02 - 03:07 AM There's a related song titled "The Original fifty cents" by Sam Devere, published in 1885. CLICK HERE. ~Masato |
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Subject: Lyr Add: THE ORIGINAL FIFTY CENTS From: Jim Dixon Date: 02 May 05 - 08:58 AM From The Library of Congress American Memory Collection : THE ORIGINAL FIFTY CENTS Sam Devere, 1885. 1. If you could only see the gal I took to a fancy ball! You could span around her little waist, so neat and very small. I thought about two oysters sure would fill her up complete, Such a dainty delicate little thing, but this is what she eat:
A big box stew with crackers too and a soft crab on toast. Then next she tried some oysters fried. Her appetite was immense. When she yelled for pie, I thought I'd die, for I had but fifty cents. She said she wasn't hungry a bit. She wished that she could eat. For a little gal, you bet your life, she had a terrible tank. She was only a little thirsty, too, but this is what she drank:
Three whisky skins and a couple of gins did quickly disappear. With a bottle of ale and a gin cocktail, she astonished all the gents. I fell on the floor when she called for more, for I had but fifty cents. She said, "Oh, Sam, I'll tell mama, you're such a real nice man!" She said she'd bring her sisters along next time she went for fun. When I showed the man my fifty cents, why, this is what he done:
I took the prize for two black eyes. He clubbed me half to death, Gave me no chance but made me dance and he fired me over the fence. Take my advice: don't try it twice, when you've got but fifty cents. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Only a half-a-crown / Fifty Cents From: MartinRyan Date: 02 May 05 - 10:29 AM Tom Crean, of The (Irish) Press Gang sings a "half-crown" version of this regularly. Regards p.s. Joe: Which means that it is perfectly possible that Liam's Brother DID have a version on tape from one of many sessions he and Tom have shared! |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Only a half-a-crown / Fifty Cents From: The Walrus Date: 02 May 05 - 10:55 AM Is it worth mentioning that, until the "revaluation" of the pound just after WWII, there were (nominally) four US Dollars to the pound, thus Half a crown and 50 cents were the same amount. I'll get my coat. Walrus |
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Subject: Lyr Add: HALF A CROWN From: GUEST,Jerry Date: 17 Sep 06 - 11:33 PM My father in law, Mort Kelleher, passed away 9/13/06, he was a great man with a heart of gold, he had a fantastic tenor voice and an Irish brogue and loved to sing. He used to sing this song and since the day he passed I wanted to hear the lyrics. I just searched it on the net and found this forum and just wanted to say thanks to Frank Maher that posted the lyrics almost exactly as Mort sang them, edited a bit and pasted below. Frank, you made me very happy during a very sad time. I took my girl to a fancy ball. It was a social hop. We stayed all night till the break of light. The music had to stop. Then we went to a restaurant, the finest on the street. She said she wasn't hungry, but this is what she eat: A dozen raw, potato slaw, a chicken and a roast, Asparagrass and apple sauce, with soft-shell crab on toast, An Irish stew and dumplings too. Her appetite made me frown. When she called for pie, I thought I'd die, for I had but a half a crown. You bet I wasn't hungry. I didn't care to eat. I've got fancy clothes, the best; they can't be beat. She took things so easy, you'd think I owned a bank. She said she wasn't thirsty, but this is what she drank: A glass of ale, a gin cocktail. It made me shake with fear. A ginger pop with rum on top, and then a jug of beer, A whisky stein, a glass of wine. She sure could drink it down. When she called for more, I fell on the floor, for I had but a half a crown. You bet I wasn't hungry. I didn't care to eat, Expecting any moment to be kicked out in the street. She said she'd bring her friends around someday and we'd have fun. When I showed the man my two and six, this is what he done: He smashed my nose. He tore my clothes. He hit me on the head, He shook me by the collar then till I was nearly dead. He caught me where my pants hung loose. He turned me upside down. Take my advice. Don't try it twice, when you've got but a half a crown. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Only a half-a-crown / Fifty Cents From: GUEST,Louie Bluie Date: 09 Nov 06 - 07:48 PM Does anyone have the chords for this? I know it sounds simple but I just can't figure the changes. Any help appreciated. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Only a half-a-crown / Fifty Cents From: GUEST,Monty Stambler Date: 14 Aug 07 - 09:22 AM R. Crumb recorded a wonderful version of this on his album R. Crumb and the Cheap Suit Serenaders |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Only a half-a-crown / Fifty Cents From: NormanD Date: 14 Aug 07 - 09:38 AM I've a rocking R&B version of this by Louis Jordan with the Chris Barber Band which he must have recorded over in the UK in the early 1960s. He says, in his spoken introduction, it's "about a guy who only had fifty cents, or half-a-crown", so he covers all currency angles. Please PM me if anyone wants an MP3. Norman |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Only a half-a-crown / Fifty Cents From: Susanne (skw) Date: 14 Aug 07 - 06:54 PM Iain MacKintosh recorded a Scottish version on 'Standing Room Only' (1986). At live gigs he used to introduce it by saying, "Hamish [Imlach] found this one in a book and gave it to me, and I Scottified it." The tune he used was 'Brochan Lom', as far as I can tell. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Only a half-a-crown / Fifty Cents From: GUEST,Mark O'Callaghan Date: 05 Nov 07 - 05:35 PM NormanD, if you are able to e-mail me an MPG of Half A Crown I would be extremely grateful. It was a song that my late father (RIP) used to sing and my sister managed to write down a few versus but having found this thread I now have all the lyrics but have spent a long time trying to get a recording. Many thanks in anticipation. Regards |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Only a half-a-crown / Fifty Cents From: GUEST,Mark O'Callaghan Date: 05 Nov 07 - 05:36 PM Sorry, I meant to leave an e-mail address for you which is ocall@ntlworld.com regards |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Only a half-a-crown / Fifty Cents From: GutBucketeer Date: 06 Nov 07 - 04:56 PM Here are the R Crumb chords: That's what it sounds like: Play the B7-chord in the 4th fret like the G#7 in "HOME" C B7 G7 C B7 G7 C I wish that you could see the girl G7 I took to a fancy ball, you could span around her little waist, C so neat and very small. I thought about two oysters sure G7 would fill her up complete, such a dainty, delicate little thing, C but this is what she'd eat: * . . . |
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Subject: Lyr Add: FIFTY CENTS From: GUEST Date: 29 Jun 08 - 08:39 AM My grandfather used to sing this to me. I took my girl out to a ball, it was a fancy hop We danced until the people left, the music it did stop I took her to a restaurant, the best one on the street She said she wasn't thirsty, but this is what she eat. A plate of slaw, a cabbage raw, a chicken and a roast Asparagrass and applesass and soft-shelled crabs on toast Oyster stew and crackers, too, her appetite was immense, But I thought I'd die when she asked for pie cuz I had but fifty cents. She took it in so easy, she had an awful tank She said she wasn't thirsty, but this is what she drank A whiskey skin, a glass of gin, a schooner full of beer A glass of pop, with rum on top that made me shake with fear A gin cocktail, a glass of ale, I'd thought she'd have more sense But I fell on the floor when she asked for more cuz I had but fifty cents She said she'd bring her family 'round and we'd have lots of fun. I showed the waiter my fifty cents, and this is what he done. He punched my nose, he tore my clothes and threw me on the floor He made me a prize of a couple black eyes, and with me swept the floor He kicked me where my pants hung loose, and threw me over the fence Take my advice, don't try it twice, when you have but fifty cents! |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Only a half-a-crown / Fifty Cents From: GUEST,Pat Date: 16 Nov 08 - 07:53 AM Remember?? |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Only a half-a-crown / Fifty Cents From: GUEST,Gary W Date: 01 Jan 09 - 02:54 PM Can anyone send me an mp3 of this song? Thanks. Gary gmwns@aol.com |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Only a half-a-crown / Fifty Cents From: NormanD Date: 01 Jan 09 - 03:48 PM It's on its way - version by Louis Jordan & Chris Barber band. |
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Subject: Lyr Add: WHEN I HAD BUT FIFTY CENTS (Binkley Bros. From: Jim Dixon Date: 27 Jan 17 - 08:03 AM WHEN I HAD BUT FIFTY CENTS As recorded by Binkley Brothers Dixie Clodhoppers, 1928. I took my girl to a fancy ball; it was a social hop. We stayed all night until the break of daylight, just waitin' for the music to stop. We went into a restaurant, the finest on the street. She said she was not hung-a-ry, but this is what she eat: A dozen raw, a plate of slaw, a chicken and a roast, A pair of doves with applesauce, a soft-shell crab on toast, A big barbecue, and crackers too; her appetite was immense. When she called for pie, I thought I would die, for I had but fifty cents. You bet I wasn't hungry; I didn't care to eat. I've got money in my clothes to bet she can't be beat. I thought if she ate that way all the time, she'd surely break a bank. She said she was not thirsty, but this is what she drank: A glass of ale, a gin cocktail—it made me shake with fear— A ginger pop with rum on top, and then a schooner of beer, A whiskey skin, a glass of gin; she should have had more sense. When she called for more, I fell on the floor, for I had but fifty cents. You bet I wasn't hungry; I didn't care to eat, Expecting ev'ry moment to be kicked out in the street. She said she'd bring her friends around some day and we'd have fun. I showed the man my fifty cents and this is what he done: He mashed my nose; he tore my clothes; he hit me on my jaw. He grabbed me by my collar then and slammed me out the door. He caught me where my clothes were loose, he kicked me through the fence. Take my advice: don't try it twice when you got but fifty cents. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Only a half-a-crown / Fifty Cents From: FreddyHeadey Date: 13 Jul 18 - 05:01 AM FB video of Gabriel McArdle singing a variation in 2014 https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10203325107961903&id=1636691861 |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Only a half-a-crown / Fifty Cents From: GUEST,jim bainbridge Date: 13 Jul 18 - 10:07 AM suspect its popularity in Uk may date from the great Frank Crumit's version from the thirties |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Only a half-a-crown / Fifty Cents From: GUEST Date: 14 Jan 20 - 05:34 PM MY UNCLE USED TO SING A VARIATION IF THIS BUT STARTED THAT HE TOOK MISS MACINALLY TO A FANCY BALL, THE TICKETS COST ME TWO AND SIX AND I FANCIED THAT WAS ALL.........etc. Great words. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Only a half-a-crown / Fifty Cents From: Joe_F Date: 14 Jan 20 - 05:42 PM In my mother's version, which she probably learned about 1930, it was only 15 cents. In my childhood (1940s) the pound was pegged at $4.03 for a long time & then suddenly devalued to $2.80. However, its traditional, folkloric value was $5. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Only a half-a-crown / Fifty Cents From: Karen Impola Date: 14 Jan 20 - 09:03 PM If anyone's interested, Michael Doucet of the Cajun band Beausoleil put the song into French. All the girlfriend eats is roast chicken and a half-dozen oysters, and the guy doesn't get as graphically beaten up. He attributes it to "Michael Doucet/trad". Listen here. Sounds more Caribbean than Cajun, but it's a catchy tune. Lyrics here |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Only a half-a-crown / Fifty Cents From: Karen Impola Date: 14 Jan 20 - 09:13 PM Oh dear. Now I've gone down a rabbit hole. I assumed that the Cajun version of the song originated with Michael Doucet, but then I found a recording that, by the sound of it, surely predates Doucet's performing career. Harrison Fontenot sings La Chanson de Cinquante Sous I've heard of the Balfa Brothers and D.L. Menard, but not this guy. Ever want to hear a Cajun version of "Smoke, Smoke, Smoke That Cigarette" or the Beverly Hillbillies theme? Check it out |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Only a half-a-crown / Fifty Cents From: Karen Impola Date: 14 Jan 20 - 09:15 PM Some of the words of Fontenot's version are the same as Doucet's, but not all, and I can't make out some of them. I'll shut up now. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Only a half-a-crown / Fifty Cents From: clueless don Date: 15 Jan 20 - 06:32 AM The version I've heard is by the Flanagan Brothers. |
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Subject: Lyr Add: FIFTY CENTS (Duke of Iron) From: Jim Dixon Date: 04 Jul 20 - 11:30 PM I heard this calypso song on Spotify and transcribed it. You can hear it on YouTube. FIFTY CENTS As recorded by the Duke of Iron I took my girl to a rock 'n' roll; it was a social bop. And after the ball was over, of course the music stop. I took her to a restaurant, the finest on the street. She said she wasn't hungry, but listen to what she eat: A dozen hot dogs with sauerkraut, hamburgers on rye, Then she ordered her scrambled eggs with such a gleam in her eye. Chicken stew and muffins too; her appetite was immense. When she called for pie I thought I would die 'cause I only had fifty cents. Of course she was a delicate girl; I never thought she could eat. But I had no more money in my coat to give her a lovely treat. Then next I asked her what she'd drink; she said with an awful tank: "Young gentleman, I'm not thirsty," but listen to what she drank: A pint of gin, a pink lady, a bloody Mary, A lemon pop with some rum on top, and a drink they call the zombie, A ginger ale, a gin cocktail; I thought she had better sense. When she called for rum, I got deaf and dumb 'cause I only had fifty cents. Well, to finish up with this delicate girl, she clean out the ice cream can, And she said: "Sweetheart, I must tell mama you are really a fine young man, And next when you go out for fun, I'll fetch the family round." So I paid the waiter the fifty cents and then the bouncing begun. Oh, he bust my nose and he tore my clothes; I washed dishes and swept the floor. Then I realize I had two black eyes and was stumbling through the door. He grabbed me where my pants was torn and kicked me over the fence, And he said: "Young man, never treat that girl when you only got fifty cents." |
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