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slides and jigs and suchlike

Maelgwyn 06 Nov 98 - 12:38 AM
Martin Ryan. 06 Nov 98 - 03:02 AM
Bruce O. 06 Nov 98 - 03:43 AM
Martin Ryan 06 Nov 98 - 03:56 AM
Barbara 06 Nov 98 - 03:04 PM
murray@mpce.mq.edu.au 06 Nov 98 - 07:00 PM
alison 09 Nov 98 - 03:50 PM
Jon W. 09 Nov 98 - 05:02 PM
Susan-Marie 10 Nov 98 - 03:04 PM
malena 10 Nov 98 - 04:42 PM
Liam's Brother 10 Nov 98 - 05:29 PM
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Subject: slides and jigs and suchlike
From: Maelgwyn
Date: 06 Nov 98 - 12:38 AM

What is the difference between a slide and a jig? I noticed that the Fiddler's Fakebook identified 'Merrily Kiss the Quaker' as a slide. But it's in 6/8 time and to me it sounds just like a jig.

Also, by chance, does anyone know how to clean soap out of the previously soft and velvety interior of a fiddle case? It's a long story, don't ask.


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Subject: RE: slides and jigs and suchlike
From: Martin Ryan.
Date: 06 Nov 98 - 03:02 AM

Slides are 12/8.

Jigs are 6/8

Crudely, a slide sounds like a very busy jig, with the stress on the first beat of the bar. You need a Kerryman to explain why!

Off the top of my head (as a singer rather than player/dancer), I think Merrily Kiss the Quaker is a slip jig - 9/8?

Regards


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Subject: Tune Add: MERRILY DANCE THE QUAKER
From: Bruce O.
Date: 06 Nov 98 - 03:43 AM

X:1
T:Merrily Dance the Quaker
S:Bremners Reels, c 1760
Q:120
L:1/8
M:6/8
K:G
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dcB efg|~B3d3|dcB gfe|dcBA2A|GABD2D|E3G3:|]


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Subject: RE: slides and jigs and suchlike
From: Martin Ryan
Date: 06 Nov 98 - 03:56 AM

I'll stick to singing!

Regards


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Subject: RE: slides and jigs and suchlike
From: Barbara
Date: 06 Nov 98 - 03:04 PM

Couple quick and dirty ways to identify slip jigs (9/8) are (1) the line sounds a little short, like something's missing and (2) the rhythm guitar players in the jam get lost trying to play along.
Blessings,
Barbara


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Subject: RE: slides and jigs and suchlike
From: murray@mpce.mq.edu.au
Date: 06 Nov 98 - 07:00 PM

OK Maelgwyn, I won't ask, but I would be hesitant to put the fiddle in the case even when the soap looks like it was removed. In fact, if the case is a valuable one I would look into getting new plush put in. If it isn't, I would write it off.

My father decided I couldn't have violin lessons because an "expert" friend of his said I didn't have a good sense of pitch. So when I was a pre-teenager I found a $15 violin in a pawn shop and tried to teach myself. I got a horrible tone bowing the open strings but I noticed that there was a stick of chalk in the little compartment in the case. I also noticed that fiddlers rubbed something on the bow, so I put two and two together and rubbed the chalk on the bow. I couldn't figure out why my tone was getting weaker the more I practiced. Your story can't be sillier than that.

Murray


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Subject: RE: slides and jigs and suchlike
From: alison
Date: 09 Nov 98 - 03:50 PM

Hi

when I do "Merrily danced the Quaker's wife" it's a jig. I agree with the 9/8 comment... great fun to confuse guitarists......

slainte

alison


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Subject: RE: slides and jigs and suchlike
From: Jon W.
Date: 09 Nov 98 - 05:02 PM

Murray, your story reminded me of this song. Same thing might happen if you put a fiddle bow in a soap-soaked case! Now that's what I call a SLIP jig! (move over, Art)


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Subject: RE: slides and jigs and suchlike
From: Susan-Marie
Date: 10 Nov 98 - 03:04 PM

Hey, this is great, I've always wondered what made a jig slip. Now, what's a "strathsbay" (sp?) and are reels 4/4 or is it not that easy?


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Subject: RE: slides and jigs and suchlike
From: malena
Date: 10 Nov 98 - 04:42 PM

Hi Susan Marie, a strathspey is kind of a slow reel from Scotland, yes a reel is always 4/4, a strathspey (what a word!) as well, it has a lot of dotted eights and sixteenth in it, especially (which is rather unusual) a sixteenth note followed by a dotted eight (tá-taaaa, tá-taaa), oops, why are there no notes on my keyboard..., watch your fiddles and bows, kids, Daniel


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Subject: RE: slides and jigs and suchlike
From: Liam's Brother
Date: 10 Nov 98 - 05:29 PM

Slides sound like superfast jigs. It's really no more complicated than that.


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