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Lyr Req: Song of the Clyde

John in Brisbane 14 Oct 98 - 09:20 PM
Rosie 14 Oct 98 - 10:09 PM
John In Brisbane 14 Oct 98 - 11:38 PM
alison 15 Oct 98 - 12:04 AM
Teru 17 Oct 98 - 03:07 AM
Christina 07 Sep 99 - 11:48 AM
Ewan McVicar 08 Sep 99 - 04:19 AM
Teru 12 Sep 99 - 06:40 PM
Celtic-End Singer 12 Sep 99 - 07:55 PM
Teru 13 Sep 99 - 08:03 AM
GUEST,John in Brisbane 04 Apr 00 - 08:30 AM
Snuffy 04 Apr 00 - 11:11 AM
Snuffy 04 Apr 00 - 11:20 AM
John in Brisbane 04 Apr 00 - 07:43 PM
Megan L 08 Apr 00 - 10:14 AM
GUEST,Gerry in Vancouver, BC 17 May 00 - 04:44 PM
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GUEST,ChantyWrassler 18 May 00 - 02:35 PM
GUEST,Paula Firmstone 14 Oct 00 - 08:08 PM
Malcolm Douglas 14 Oct 00 - 08:43 PM
Jim McLean 25 Aug 02 - 06:35 AM
mg 29 Nov 04 - 12:05 AM
John MacKenzie 29 Nov 04 - 03:34 AM
Jim McLean 29 Nov 04 - 10:51 AM
Kenny B (inactive) 29 Nov 04 - 08:09 PM
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Subject: LYR:?Dear Old Donegal/Song of the Clyde
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 14 Oct 98 - 09:20 PM

What do these two songs have in common?

Neither are in the database (I think) and they've both got a squillion words plus a patter verse with lots of tongue twisting challenges. And they're far from traditional.

I actually have the lyrics, but before I type out the few thousand keystrokes, are they readily available on other sites please?

Regards
John


Click for 'Dear Old Donegal."


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Subject: RE: LYR:?Dear Old Donegal/Song of the Clyde
From: Rosie
Date: 14 Oct 98 - 10:09 PM

Are we "on the same page" here? I've got lyrics to "Old Donegal" which begins:

CHORUS: Sing me a song and I'll take you along from Ballintra (?sp) down to Port Hall

In memories of times I will never forget, my days in Old Donegal

What does it have in common w 'Song of the Clyde'? Please tell...thanks Rosie


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Subject: RE: LYR:?Dear Old Donegal/Song of the Clyde
From: John In Brisbane
Date: 14 Oct 98 - 11:38 PM

Hi Rosie,

The Dear Old Donegal I meant has a chorus which starts:

Shake hands with your uncle Mike, me boy,
And here is your sister Kate,
And there's the girl you used to swing down by the garden gate etc

Meet Brannigan, Fanagan, Milligan, Gilligan etc

Regards
John


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Subject: RE: LYR:?Dear Old Donegal/Song of the Clyde
From: alison
Date: 15 Oct 98 - 12:04 AM

Hi John,

'Donegal' was posted here by someone not so long ago. It was in the middle of another thread (click here) and I can't remember which one.

Someone else might..... and save you the typing.

slainte

alison


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Subject: RE: LYR:?Dear Old Donegal/Song of the Clyde
From: Teru
Date: 17 Oct 98 - 03:07 AM

The Song Of The Clyde may not be a folksong. Its tongue twisting patter verse, however, seems to me "very Scottish". Compare the first verse to the patter verse.

1st

I sing of a river I'm happy beside,

The song that I sing is a song of the Clyde. etc...

patter

There's Paw an' Maw at Glasgow Broomielaw; They're goin' "doon the water" for "The Fair."

There's Bob an' Mary, on the Govan Ferry, Wishin' jet propulsion could be there. etc...

Is this style not traditional?

Regards

Teru


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Subject: RE: LYR:?Dear Old Donegal/Song of the Clyde
From: Christina
Date: 07 Sep 99 - 11:48 AM

Would you like to send me the words to song of the clyde ross@midwest.com.au


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Subject: RE: LYR:?Dear Old Donegal/Song of the Clyde
From: Ewan McVicar
Date: 08 Sep 99 - 04:19 AM

The Song of the Clyde is very Scottish music hall.
I'd suggest music hall came from new urban elements intermingling with older town and country folksong elements - it's an area that is underresearched and undercontemplated.
The 'patter' verse of Song of the Clyde quoted from reflects the urban interest in 'patter' style conversation / wordplay.
Please, nobody ask me to explain further here. Each sentence above needs a chapter to explain if you don't already know what I mean. And I already spend too much typing here when I should be getting on with my work.


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Subject: RE: LYR:?Dear Old Donegal/Song of the Clyde
From: Teru
Date: 12 Sep 99 - 06:40 PM

Christina:

I have sent you the lyrics to The Song Of The Clyde directly by E-mail.

Regards

Teru


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Subject: RE: LYR:?Dear Old Donegal/Song of the Clyde
From: Celtic-End Singer
Date: 12 Sep 99 - 07:55 PM

Teru: Would you do the same for me please. christopher_mclaughlin@hotmail.com


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE SONG OF THE CLYDE
From: Teru
Date: 13 Sep 99 - 08:03 AM

I thought "The Song of the Clyde" was very popular and I didn’t have to write the whole lyrics. Here I'll post the lyrics, though it is not a folk song.


THE SONG OF THE CLYDE
Songwriter:

1. I sing of a river I'm happy beside.
The song that I sing is a song of the Clyde.
Of all Scottish rivers it's dearest to me.
It flows from Leadhills all the way to the sea.
It borders the orchards of Lanark so fair,
Meanders through meadows with sheep grazing there,
But from Glasgow to Greenock, in towns on each side,
The hammers' "ding-dong" is the song of the Clyde.

CHORUS: Oh the river Clyde, the wonderful Clyde!
The name of it thrills me and fills me with pride,
And I'm satisfied, whate'er may betide,
The sweetest of song is the song of the Clyde.

2. Imagine we've left Craigendoran behind,
And wind-happy yachts by Kilcreggan we find.
At Kirn and Dunoon and Innellan we stay,
Then Scotland’s Madeira—that's Rothesay, they say—
Or maybe by Fairlie and Largs we will go,
Or over to Millport that thrills people so,
Maybe journey to Arran it can't be denied,
Those scenes all belong to the song of the Clyde. CHORUS

3. When sun sets on dockland there's beauty to see.
The cry of a sea bird is music to me.
The blast of a horn loudly echoes, and then
A stillness descends on the water again.
'Tis here that the sea-going liners are born:
But, unlike the salmon, they seldom return.
Can you wonder the Scots, o'er the ocean so wide,
Should constantly long for the song of the Clyde? CHORUS

(Optional Patter Verse)

4. There's Paw an' Maw at Glasgow Broomielaw.
They're goin' "doon the water" for "The Fair."
There's Bob an' Mary, on the Govan Ferry,
Wishin' jet propulsion could be there.
There's steamers cruisin', and there's "buddies" snoozin',
And there's laddies fishin' frae the pier;
An' Paw's perspirin', very near expirin',
As he rows a boat frae there to here.

5. With eyes a-flashin', it is voted "smashin",
To be walkin' daily on the prom:
And May and Evelyn are in seventh heaven
As thy stroll along with Dick and Tom;
And Dumbarton Rock to ev'ry Jean and Jock,
Extends a welcome that is high and wide:
Seems to know that they are on their homeward way
To hear the song of the Clyde. CHORUS


With kind regards

Teru


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Subject: RE: LYR:?Dear Old Donegal/Song of the Clyde
From: GUEST,John in Brisbane
Date: 04 Apr 00 - 08:30 AM

I have just notated Song of the Clyde (from the score) but I don't have the music for the patter verse. Can anyone else oblige please? It would be a pity to post the tune to Mudcat Midis without the final part. Regards, John


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Subject: RE: LYR:?Dear Old Donegal/Song of the Clyde
From: Snuffy
Date: 04 Apr 00 - 11:11 AM

John

The tune for the patter verse is the same, but you have to squeeze all the words in - becomes something like 12/4 time (if there is such a thing!)

Wassail! V


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Subject: RE: LYR:?Dear Old Donegal/Song of the Clyde
From: Snuffy
Date: 04 Apr 00 - 11:20 AM

I think I got my timings wrong. Anyway, heres' the first part with bar markings - just put 2 1/8 notes in place of every 1/4 note

There's | Paw an' Maw at Glasgow |Broomielaw; They're goin' |"doon the water" for "The |Fair." There's |Bob an' Mary, on the |Govan Ferry, Wishin' |jet propulsion could be |there.

Wassail! V


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Subject: RE: LYR:?Dear Old Donegal/Song of the Clyde
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 04 Apr 00 - 07:43 PM

Thanks Snuffy - I didn't appreciate until your advice that the patter has the same structure as the chorus. Best regards, John


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Subject: RE: LYR:?Dear Old Donegal/Song of the Clyde
From: Megan L
Date: 08 Apr 00 - 10:14 AM

Song of the Clyde is one of many songs from the good old days of the Empire and the Alhambra 2 of the many Glasgow theatres which thrived on music hall right up till the 50/60s. It is recorded on a few Scottish (touristy) records though I can't remember which of hand.


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Subject: RE: LYR:?Dear Old Donegal/Song of the Clyde
From: GUEST,Gerry in Vancouver, BC
Date: 17 May 00 - 04:44 PM

I have been searching for the Lyrics to the "Song of the Clyde" for several years, and have finally stubled upon them here. Thanks, Teru!

I think I heard the Alexander Brothers sing it when I was much younger, but the song was brought back to mind during a family trip to Scotland about four years ago. We were travelling from Tarbert, Argyll, to Largs on board the sidewheel steamer "Waverley". Forward, on the lower deck, this vessel had a bar; at the foremost part of this area, a small band was playing the "Song of the Clyde". As we chunked our way through the beatiful estuary of the Clyde River, it was one of those occasions when the music (even though not really "folk") seemed to fit the moment perfectly.

Now, my next hurdle is that I remember the tune for the chorus, but I'm not so sure about the verse. Does anyone know where it can be found?


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Subject: RE: LYR:?Dear Old Donegal/Song of the Clyde
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 17 May 00 - 07:29 PM

Gerry, thanks for reminding me. I think I had notated this piece but hadn't quite finished it off. I'll aim to do this over the weekend and then post to Mudcat MIDIs. Regards, John


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Subject: RE: LYR:?Dear Old Donegal/Song of the Clyde
From: GUEST,ChantyWrassler
Date: 18 May 00 - 02:35 PM

Song of the Clyde..

I know the tune very well, how can I notate it so that I can post it here?

I wanted to get the words becuase I wanted to "pair" it with Archie Fisher's "Shipyard Apprentice" to sing as contrasting pieces on the same subject.

How *does* one post tunes?

Cheers M' dears

Steven C


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Subject: River Clyde
From: GUEST,Paula Firmstone
Date: 14 Oct 00 - 08:08 PM

I'm looking for the words to a Scottish song called "The River CLyde" It has 3 verses and choruses and I know only the first one. It starts off - "I sing of a river I'm happy beside. The song that I sing is the song of the Clyde. Of all Scottish Rivers it's dearest to me. It flows from Leadhills all the way to the sea......" It would be much appreciated if I could get all the words to this song. Please email to frmstone@zipworld.com.au


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: River Clyde
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 14 Oct 00 - 08:43 PM

It's on an earlier thread;  Click here for "Song of the Clyde"

Malcolm


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: River Clyde
From: Jim McLean
Date: 25 Aug 02 - 06:35 AM

SONG OF THE CLYDE
words and music by R.Y.Bell and Ian Gourley
1957 Pub: James S Kerr 79 Berkley Street Glasgow for sheet music (and a map of the Firth of Clyde!

Jim Mclean


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Dear Old Donegal' & 'Song of the Clyde'
From: mg
Date: 29 Nov 04 - 12:05 AM

There is another great Clyde song..Ewan Mac?? I forget the name...about shipbuilding in WWII...it was tears that made the Clyde.

mg


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Dear Old Donegal' & 'Song of the Clyde'
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 29 Nov 04 - 03:34 AM

There's paw an' maw/ at Glesca Broomielaw/
they're gaun doon the water fur the ferr/

Therr's Bob an' Merry oan the Govan Ferry/
wishin jet propulsion could be therr/

Therr's steamer cruisin'/ an' therrs buddies snoozin/
an' therr's laddies fishin' frae the pier/

An Paw's perspirin/ verra near expirin'/
As he rows aboat frae therr tae here.

                   ~

Wi' eyes a flashin' it is voted smashin'/
to be walkin' daily on the prom.

An' May and Evelyn are in seventh heaven/
as they stroll along wi' Dick an' Tom.

An' Dumbarton Rock to every Jean an' Jock/
extends a welcome that is high and wide.

Furr it seems tae say they're on their homeward way/
to hear the song of the Clyde.

What you have is two four line verses with double the amount of words, but sung to the same tune, with a bit of practice it's easy to get them all in.

Giok


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Dear Old Donegal' & 'Song of the Clyde'
From: Jim McLean
Date: 29 Nov 04 - 10:51 AM

Maybe the writers' credits have already been posted somewhere but if not:
Song of the Clyde, words and music by R Y Bell and Ian Gourley, copyright 1957 James A Kerr Glasgow


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Dear Old Donegal' & 'Song of the Clyde'
From: Kenny B (inactive)
Date: 29 Nov 04 - 08:09 PM

It Must be a folk song!
Jim Reid sings it :>)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Dear Old Donegal' & 'Song of the Cly
From: GUEST,Paul Burke
Date: 30 Nov 04 - 04:54 AM

I HATE YOU ALL!!!!

I'd managed to extirpate that horror, Song of the Clyde, from my memory for forty years and now you've exhumed it. Miss Daley plunking on the piano, the bare floorboards of the school hall, Mrs. Duval and her half- heated cans of soup, lining up outside the head's office for the cane, the red uniforms that made us conspicuous targets on the walk home, Brother Anselm and Brother Philip, not to mention the other one who suddenly disappeared after becoming over- friendly with one of the boys.

And all those songs are coming back- Kelvin Grove, The Scots Girl, The Road to the Isles, Will Ye No Come Back Again????? Why the Scots bias at a tenth- rate English Catholic day prep school? Easy. Miss Daley (about 60 odd) had a crush on the head, Brother Peter (about 60 odd and celibate). He pretended to be Scottish although he was really Irish because he thought it was more socially acceptable.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Dear Old Donegal' & 'Song of the Clyde'
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 30 Nov 04 - 10:26 AM

No worse than pretending to be Scot, and all the while really a Mancunian or thereabouts. ;~)
Giok


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Dear Old Donegal' & 'Song of the Clyde'
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Sep 08 - 07:58 AM

Sniff, reminds of those saturday night with mum and dad singing all the old ditties and folk songs,, sigh I miss them both


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