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Tune/Chords Add: Shickered As He Could Be

09 Jan 98 - 08:50 PM
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Subject: Tune/Chords Add: SHICKERED AS HE COULD BE
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Date: 09 Jan 98 - 08:50 PM

G'day, Some months ago I posted the words to Shickered As He Could Be. As Dick has requested the tune, here it is:

MIDI file: SHICKERD.MID

Timebase: 480

Name: Shickered As He Could Be
TimeSig: 4/4 24 8
Key: C
Tempo: 109 (545455 microsec/crotchet)
Start
1440 1 55 127 0478 0 55 127 0002 1 55 127 0718 0 55 127 0002 1 55 127 0238 0 55 127 0002 1 55 127 0478 0 55 127 0002 1 55 127 0478 0 55 127 0002 1 60 127 0478 0 60 127 0002 1 62 127 0478 0 62 127 0002 1 64 127 0958 0 64 127 0002 1 62 127 0238 0 62 127 0002 1 62 127 0478 0 62 127 0002 1 55 127 0238 0 55 127 0002 1 59 127 0478 0 59 127 0002 1 62 127 0478 0 62 127 0002 1 60 127 1438 0 60 127 0002 1 64 127 0478 0 64 127 0002 1 64 127 0718 0 64 127 0002 1 64 127 0238 0 64 127 0002 1 64 127 0478 0 64 127 0002 1 65 127 0478 0 65 127 0002 1 67 127 0718 0 67 127 0002 1 67 127 0238 0 67 127 0002 1 67 127 0478 0 67 127 0002 1 64 127 0478 0 64 127 0002 1 64 127 0478 0 64 127 0002 1 62 127 0478 0 62 127 0002 1 62 127 0478 0 62 127 0002 1 62 127 0478 0 62 127 0002 1 55 127 1438 0 55 127 0002 1 64 127 0238 0 64 127 0002 1 65 127 0238 0 65 127 0002 1 67 127 0718 0 67 127 0002 1 67 127 0238 0 67 127 0002 1 64 127 0718 0 64 127 0002 1 65 127 0238 0 65 127 0002 1 67 127 0718 0 67 127 0002 1 67 126 0238 0 67 126 0002 1 67 127 0718 0 67 127 0002 1 64 127 0238 0 64 127 0002 1 55 127 0718 0 55 127 0002 1 55 127 0238 0 55 127 0002 1 60 127 0478 0 60 127 0002 1 62 127 0478 0 62 127 0002 1 64 127 1438 0 64 127 0002 1 55 127 0478 0 55 127 0002 1 55 127 0718 0 55 127 0002 1 55 127 0238 0 55 127 0002 1 55 127 0478 0 55 127 0002 1 55 127 0478 0 55 127 0002 1 60 127 0478 0 60 127 0002 1 62 127 0478 0 62 127 0002 1 64 127 0718 0 64 127 0002 1 64 127 0238 0 64 127 0002 1 62 127 0478 0 62 127 0002 1 55 127 0478 0 55 127 0002 1 59 127 0478 0 59 127 0002 1 62 127 0478 0 62 127 0002 1 60 127 1438 0 60 127
End

To download the November 10 MIDItext 97 software and get instructions on how to use it click here

ABC format:

X:1
T:Shickered As He Could Be
M:4/4
Q:1/4=109
K:C
G,2|G,3G,G,2G,2|C2D2E4|DD2G,B,2D2|C6E2|E3EE2F2|
G3GG2E2|E2D2D2D2|G,6EF|G3GE3F|G3GG3E|G,3G,C2D2|
E6G,2|G,3G,G,2G,2|C2D2E3E|D2G,2B,2D2|C6||

With some obvious timing variations the tune is the same for the chorus.

The chords fit like this:

  SHICKERED AS HE COULD BE  Child No.274

C G7 C
This bloke I know came rolling home shickered as he could be
Am7 Dm G7
He saw a horse there in the yard where his old horse should be
C Am E
He says me wife, me darlin' wife now come and tell to me
C Am Dm G7 C
How come this horse there in the yard where my old horse should be?

Cheers,
Alan


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Subject: RE: Shickered As He Could Be
From: Alan of Australia
Date: 09 Jan 98 - 09:00 PM

G'day,
OK, let's try that again (when you try something new it doesn't always work!)

Some months ago I posted the words to Shickered As He Could Be. As Dick has requested the tune, here it is:

MIDI file: SHICKERD.MID

Timebase: 480

Name: Shickered As He Could Be
TimeSig: 4/4 24 8
Key: C
Tempo: 109 (545455 microsec/crotchet)
Start
1440 1 55 127 0478 0 55 127 0002 1 55 127 0718 0 55 127 0002 1 55 127 0238 0 55 127 0002 1 55 127 0478 0 55 127 0002 1 55 127 0478 0 55 127 0002 1 60 127 0478 0 60 127 0002 1 62 127 0478 0 62 127 0002 1 64 127 0958 0 64 127 0002 1 62 127 0238 0 62 127 0002 1 62 127 0478 0 62 127 0002 1 55 127 0238 0 55 127 0002 1 59 127 0478 0 59 127 0002 1 62 127 0478 0 62 127 0002 1 60 127 1438 0 60 127 0002 1 64 127 0478 0 64 127 0002 1 64 127 0718 0 64 127 0002 1 64 127 0238 0 64 127 0002 1 64 127 0478 0 64 127 0002 1 65 127 0478 0 65 127 0002 1 67 127 0718 0 67 127 0002 1 67 127 0238 0 67 127 0002 1 67 127 0478 0 67 127 0002 1 64 127 0478 0 64 127 0002 1 64 127 0478 0 64 127 0002 1 62 127 0478 0 62 127 0002 1 62 127 0478 0 62 127 0002 1 62 127 0478 0 62 127 0002 1 55 127 1438 0 55 127 0002 1 64 127 0238 0 64 127 0002 1 65 127 0238 0 65 127 0002 1 67 127 0718 0 67 127 0002 1 67 127 0238 0 67 127 0002 1 64 127 0718 0 64 127 0002 1 65 127 0238 0 65 127 0002 1 67 127 0718 0 67 127 0002 1 67 126 0238 0 67 126 0002 1 67 127 0718 0 67 127 0002 1 64 127 0238 0 64 127 0002 1 55 127 0718 0 55 127 0002 1 55 127 0238 0 55 127 0002 1 60 127 0478 0 60 127 0002 1 62 127 0478 0 62 127 0002 1 64 127 1438 0 64 127 0002 1 55 127 0478 0 55 127 0002 1 55 127 0718 0 55 127 0002 1 55 127 0238 0 55 127 0002 1 55 127 0478 0 55 127 0002 1 55 127 0478 0 55 127 0002 1 60 127 0478 0 60 127 0002 1 62 127 0478 0 62 127 0002 1 64 127 0718 0 64 127 0002 1 64 127 0238 0 64 127 0002 1 62 127 0478 0 62 127 0002 1 55 127 0478 0 55 127 0002 1 59 127 0478 0 59 127 0002 1 62 127 0478 0 62 127 0002 1 60 127 1438 0 60 127
End

To download the November 10 MIDItext 97 software and get instructions on how to use it click here

ABC format:

X:1
T:Shickered As He Could Be
M:4/4
Q:1/4=109
K:C
G,2|G,3G,G,2G,2|C2D2E4|DD2G,B,2D2|C6E2|E3EE2F2|
G3GG2E2|E2D2D2D2|G,6EF|G3GE3F|G3GG3E|G,3G,C2D2|
E6G,2|G,3G,G,2G,2|C2D2E3E|D2G,2B,2D2|C6||

With some obvious timing variations the tune is the same for the chorus.

The chords fit like this:

  SHICKERED AS HE COULD BE  Child No.274    

This Cbloke I know came rolling home G7shickered as he could Cbe He saw a horse there Am7in the yard where Dmhis old horse should G7be He Csays me wife, me darlin' wife now Amcome and tell to Eme How Ccome this horse there Amin the yard where Dmmy old G7horse should Cbe?

Cheers,
Alan


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Subject: RE: Shickered As He Could Be
From: Alan of Australia
Date: 09 Jan 98 - 09:04 PM

Maybe this time:

This Cbloke I know came rolling home G7shickered as he could Cbe
He saw a horse there Am7in the yard where Dmhis old horse should G7be
He Csays me wife, me darlin' wife now Amcome and tell to Eme
How Ccome this horse there Amin the yard where Dmmy old G7horse should Cbe?

Cheers,
Alan


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Subject: RE: Shickered As He Could Be
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 10 Jan 98 - 12:07 PM

Thanx, Alan. And welcome back.


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Subject: Lyr/Tune Add: OUR GOODMAN CAME HAME AT E'EN
From: Bruce O.
Date: 10 Jan 98 - 04:10 PM

[Another version, with tune. Five Nights Drunk, but there are two incidents the last night.]

Stenhouse relates how the song was recovered by David Herd and given in Scots Songs, (SS) 1776 (also in Herd's MSS, commencing slighlty differently, and reprinted by Child #274). No earlier copy has yet been discovered, in spite of considerable effort to do so. Herd gave no music nor did he indicate a tune. David Clarke, musical editor of SMM, and Johnson the engraver and publisher didn't know the tune, but heard of a man in Edinburgh, a Mr. Geikie, who sang the song. They visited Mr. Geikie, and recovered the tune, and gave the song, with a few judicious corrections, along with the tune in SMM #454 (1797). Part of the song is a recitative in tune, but this is difficult to convey without graphics. In Herd only the lines couplets "--- !, quo' she/ Ay, ---, quo' he" and "---! quo' he/ Ay,---, quo she" are recitatives.

Our Goodman came hame at e'en., &c.

Our goodman came hame at e'en,
And hame came he;
And there he saw a saddle-horse,
Where no horse should be.
O How came this horse here?
Or how can it be
O how cam this horse here,
Without the leave o' me?
A horse! quo' she;
Ay, a horse quo' he.
Ye auld blind dotard carl,
And blinder mat ye be
'Tis but a dainty milk cow,
My minny sent to me.
A milk cow! quo he;
Ay a milk cow, quo she.
O far hae I ridden,
And meikle hae I seen,
But a saddle on a milk cow
a_fore I ne'er saw nane.

Our goodman came hame at e'en
And hame came he;
He spy'd a pair of jackboots,
Where nae boots should be.
What's this goodwife?
What's this I see?
How came these boots there
Without the leave o' me!
Boots! quo' she:
Ay, boots quo' he.
Shame fa' your cuckold face,
And ill mat ye see,
It's but a pair of water stoups
The cooper sent to me.
Water stoups! quo' he:
Ay, water stoups, quo' she.
Far hae I ridden,
And farer hae I gane,
But siller spurs on water stoups
Saw I never nane.

Our goodman came hame at e'en,
and hame came he;
And then he saw a (siller) sword, [() not in SS
Where a sword should not be:
What's this now goodwife?
What's this I see?
O how came this sword here,
Without the leave o' me?
A sword! quo' she:
Ay, a sword, quo' he.
Shame fa' your cuckold face,
And ill mat you see,
It's but a parridge spurtle
My minnie sent to me.
(A parridge spurtle! quo' he: [missing in SS
Ay, a parridge spurtle quo' she.) [missing in SS
Weil, far hae I ridden,
And muckle hae I seen;
But siller banded (parridge) spurtles [() missing SS
Saw I never nane.

Our goodman came hame at e'en,
And hame came he;
There he spy'd a powder'd wig,
Where nae wig should be.
What's this now goodwife?
What's this I see?
How came this wig here,
Without the leave o' me.
A wig! quo' she:
Ay, a wig, quo' he.
Shame fa' your cuckold face,
And ill mat you see,
'Tis naething but a clocken hen
My minnie set to me.
A clocken hen! quo' he:
Ay, a clocken hen, quo' she.
Far hae I ridden,
And muckle hae I seen,
But powder on a clocken-hen,
Saw I never nane.

Our goodman came hame at e'en,
And hame came he;
And ther he saw a muckle coat,
Where nae coat shou'd be.
O how came this coat here?
How can this be?
How came this coat here
Without the leave o' me?
A coat! quo' she:
Ay, a coat, quo' he.
Ye auld blind dotard carl,
Blind mat ye be,
It's but a pair of blankets
My minnie sent to me.
Blankets! quo' he;
Ay, blankets, quo' she.
Far hae I ridden,
And muckle hae I seen,
But buttons upon blankets
Saw I never nane.

Ben went our goodman,
And ben went he;
And there he spy'd a sturdy man.
Where nae man should be.
How came this man here?
How can this be?
How came this man here,
Without the leave o' me?
A man! quo' she:
Ay, a man, quo' he.
Poor blind body,
And blinder mat ye be,
It's a new milking maid,
My mither sent to me.
A maid! quo' he:
Ay, a maid, quo' she,
Far hae I ridden,
And muckle hae I seen
But lang-bearded maidens
Saw I never nane.

X:1 T:Our Goodman came hame at e'en. &c N:from Scots Musical Museum, #454 (1797) L:1/8 M:2/4 K:A E A A A|A A .A c|B2c3/2A/2|F3 E|E A A A|A A Az/2c/2|B3/2A/2 B3/2 c/2|.A2c3/2d/2|e2c f|{f/2}e2 c3/2 A/2|B3/2A/2 B3/2 c/2|.F3 E|E/2A3/2 A A|A2 A3/2 c/2||B3/2 A/2 B3/2 c/2|.A3 A|A3z/2 A/2|.e3 E/2 E/2|E3z/2 E/2|.A2 c3/2d/2|\ e2 c/2f3/2|e e c A|B3/2 A/2 c3/2 A/2|{G/2}F3 E|E A A A|A2 A c|B/2 A3/2 B3/2 c/2|.A3 A|E2 E3/2 E/2|.A2 zA/2 A/2|A2 A3/2 A/2|.e2 (c3/2d/2)|e2c3/2 f/2|e2c3/2 A/2|B3/2 A/2 B3/2 c/2|.F3 E/2 E/2|E A A A|A2 A3/2 c/2|B3/2 A/2 B3/2 c/2|A4


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Subject: RE: Shickered As He Could Be
From: Joe Offer
Date: 11 Jan 98 - 01:12 AM

I'm getting error messages on ABCmus with the tune, Bruce. Can you fix it?
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Shickered As He Could Be
From: dulcimer
Date: 11 Jan 98 - 08:04 AM

I get errors, but the tune is playable.


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Subject: RE: Shickered As He Could Be
From: Bruce O.
Date: 11 Jan 98 - 01:03 PM

Joe,

I wrote it using rules for Chris Walshaw's original ABC, and it plays and displays ok on his ABC2WIN program, so I don't what your difficulty might be. I've never looked at any other ABC software.


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Subject: RE: Shickered As He Could Be
From: Joe Offer
Date: 11 Jan 98 - 01:18 PM

Hmmmm. Not sure, Bruce. I got it to play after I put line breaks in after each of the introductory lines, but I still get error messages. I think maybe ABCmus wants a bar at the end of each line. I think the problem is just that it lines breaks in the right places. I'll tinker with it and see. Alan???
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Shickered As He Could Be
From: Bruce O.
Date: 11 Jan 98 - 01:27 PM

I left out the html markup's so one wouldn't have to erase them, but lines get folded together that way. Each \ should be the end of a line of code in ABC. So try putting each Z:...n on its own line and after key indication, K:A (line end), start code at EAAA, ending each line after the \.


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Subject: RE: Shickered As He Could Be
From: Joe Offer
Date: 11 Jan 98 - 01:40 PM

Works fine, Bruce, once I added the line breaks at the right place. Try leaving in (or inserting) the HTML markups, though. When I highlight and copy in MSIE, I copy just what I see on the screen, not the HTML - I think it works the same way in Netscape. If I want to copy the HTML, I have to "view source" for the page.

All that sounds more technical than it really is. With ABCmus, I just highlight the tune and right-click and copy it, and then click on the ABCmus button that says "play tune from clipboard now." If there's an ABC tune posted here, I can play it in a matter of about two seconds. In the language my kids used last year, it's "hecka-kewl."
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: Tune Add: OUR GOODMAN CAME HAME AT E'EN
From: Joe Offer
Date: 11 Jan 98 - 01:48 PM

Here's the tune, with line endings added. Try it.

X:1
T:Our Goodman came hame at e'en. &c N:from Scots Musical Museum, #454 (1797)
L:1/8
M:2/4
K:A
E A A A|A A .A c|B2c3/2A/2|F3 E|
E A A A|A A Az/2c/2|B3/2A/2 B3/2 c/2|.A2c3/2d/2|
e2c f|{f/2}e2 c3/2 A/2|B3/2A/2 B3/2 c/2|.F3 E|
E/2A3/2 A A|A2 A3/2 c/2||B3/2 A/2 B3/2 c/2|.A3 A|
A3z/2 A/2|.e3 E/2 E/2|E3z/2 E/2|.A2 c3/2d/2|
e2 c/2f3/2|e e c A|B3/2 A/2 c3/2 A/2|{G/2}F3 E|
E A A A|A2 A c|B/2 A3/2 B3/2 c/2|.A3 A|
E2 E3/2 E/2|.A2 zA/2 A/2|A2 A3/2 A/2|.e2 (c3/2d/2)|
e2c3/2 f/2|e2c3/2 A/2|B3/2 A/2 B3/2 c/2|.F3 E/2 E/2|
E A A A|A2 A3/2 c/2|B3/2 A/2 B3/2 c/2|A4


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Subject: RE: Shickered As He Could Be
From: Joe Offer
Date: 11 Jan 98 - 01:51 PM

Nope. I still get error messages. What did I do wrong?


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Subject: RE: Shickered As He Could Be
From: Bruce O.
Date: 11 Jan 98 - 01:54 PM

Joe, I never heard of MSIE, and didn't know you could copy html directly to ASCII. Thanks for telling me. I need it to make an ASCII copy of my broadside ballad index at www.pbm.com/~lindal/ballads/17thc_index.html. It takes me about a day to convert to ASCII the way I've been doing it, and I've got a new version in html, but no ASCII one. I much prefer the ASCII one for my own use, and to send to requesters of a copy. So where do I get this MSIE?


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Subject: RE: Shickered As He Could Be
From: Joe Offer
Date: 11 Jan 98 - 02:17 PM

Ooops! I guess I should have explained the acronym again, since this thread is getting long. MSIE is the oft-maligned Microsoft Internet Explorer, which is actually quite good, thank you. However, in the current 4.0 version, I sometimes don't get line breaks when I highlight and copy, and I sometimes do. Haven't figured out how to control that yet, but I will. You should be able to highlight-and-copy with Netscape and not get the markup language, can't you?
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: Tune Add: OUR GOODMAN CAME HAME AT E'EN
From: Bruce O.
Date: 11 Jan 98 - 02:51 PM

Sorry Joe, when I appended my ABC file to the text file I some how lost the terminator of the tune.

X:1
T:Our Goodman came hame at e'en. &c
L:1/8
M:2/4
K:A
E A A A|A A .A c|B2c3/2A/2|F3 E|\
E A A A|A A Az/2c/2|B3/2A/2 B3/2 c/2|.A2c3/2d/2|\
e2c f|{f/2}e2 c3/2 A/2|B3/2A/2 B3/2 c/2|.F3 E|\
E/2A3/2 A A|A2 A3/2 c/2||B3/2 A/2 B3/2 c/2|.A3 A|\
A3z/2 A/2|.e3 E/2 E/2|E3z/2 E/2|.A2 c3/2d/2|\
e2 c/2f3/2|e e c A|B3/2 A/2 c3/2 A/2|{G/2}F3 E|\
E A A A|A2 A c|B/2 A3/2 B3/2 c/2|.A3 A|\
E2 E3/2 E/2|.A2 zA/2 A/2|A2 A3/2 A/2|.e2 (c3/2d/2)|\
e2c3/2 f/2|e2c3/2 A/2|B3/2 A/2 B3/2 c/2|.F3 E/2 E/2|\
E A A A|A2 A3/2 c/2|B3/2 A/2 B3/2 c/2|A4|]


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Subject: RE: Shickered As He Could Be
From: Joe Offer
Date: 11 Jan 98 - 06:06 PM

That's perfect, Bruce.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Shickered As He Could Be
From: Bruce O.
Date: 11 Jan 98 - 06:51 PM

On second thought, where I failed is probably that I didn't highlight to the absolute end of the last line when I set it up for copying.


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