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About to commit a MONDEGREEN for Gilderoy

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Subject: Lyr Add: GILDEROY (from Sandra Kerr)
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Date: 18 Aug 97 - 04:55 PM

I've sounded out my particular version of Gilderoy (sung by Sandra Kerr) and think it's fairly satisfactory, except for one word in the penultimate verse. Here's the version I've come up with, and the spot where the Mondegreen will be committed.

GILDEROY

Now Gilderoy was as bonny a boy as Scotland ever bred
He'd knots of ribbons on his shoes and a scarlet cloak so red
He was beloved by the ladies all; he was such a rakish boy
But he was my sovereign heart's delight, my handsome Gilderoy

Now Gilderoy and I was born both in one town together
And not past seven years of age that we did love each other
Our dads and mothers did agree and crowned with mirth and joy
To think upon the bridal day 'twixt me and Gilderoy

Now Gilderoy and I walked out when we were both fifteen
And gently he did lay me down among the leaves so green
When he had done what he could do he rose and went away
He was my sovereign heart's delight, my handsome Gilderoy

Now what a pity, a man be hanged for stealing a woman there
For he stole neither house nor land, nor stole neither horse nor mare
Yet none dare meet him face to face, he was such a rakish boy
At length with numbers he was taken, my handsome Gilderoy

Now Gilderoy is in Edinburgh Town; it's long ere I was there
They hanged him on the gallows high and he wagged in the air
His ??? they were more esteemed than Hector's were at Troy
I never loved to see the face that gazed on Gilderoy

Now Gilderoy is dead and gone, and how then shall I live?
With a brace of pistols at my side, I'll guard his lonely grave
They hanged him on the gallows high for being such a rakish boy
But he was my sovereign heart's delight, my handsome Gilderoy

At the point of ???, I'm hearing "rallies", but don't know if this makes sense or not.

Claire K.


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Subject: RE: About to commit a MONDEGREEN for Gilderoy
From: Bruce
Date: 18 Aug 97 - 09:34 PM

The line with the ??? is in verse 6 of the version in Orpheus Caledonius, II, p. 107, 1733, and runs:

[to edinburgh I followed fast; But long e'er I came there, They had him mounted on a Mast, And wagging in the Air.] His Relicks there were mair esteem'd, [ Than Scanderbeg and Croy; An e'vry Man was happpy deem'd, That gaz'd on Gilderoy.]


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Subject: RE: About to commit a MONDEGREEN for Gilderoy
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Date: 19 Aug 97 - 03:28 PM

Ah, *Relics*! Now that fits! I don't think I would have come up with that word on my own. Thanks very much.

Claire K.


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Subject: RE: About to commit a MONDEGREEN for Gilderoy
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 02 Oct 02 - 07:04 AM

I was looking though a site on the Newgate Cronicles recently and found this report of the real Gilderoy (or Gilder-Roy) which makes it seem that he wasn't as innocent as the song makes him out.


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Subject: RE: About to commit a MONDEGREEN for Gilderoy
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 02 Oct 02 - 07:22 AM

And there was I thinking of him as a precursor of John McEnroe, what with those "rallies"...


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Subject: RE: About to commit a MONDEGREEN for Gilderoy
From: Bullfrog Jones
Date: 02 Oct 02 - 08:21 AM

Rambling Syd Rumpo would have sung 'lallies'!

BJ


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Subject: RE: About to commit a MONDEGREEN for Gilderoy
From: Wolfgang
Date: 02 Oct 02 - 10:06 AM

It is a common feature in all highwayman ballads to make the villains look nobler than they actually were.

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: About to commit a MONDEGREEN for Gilderoy
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 02 Oct 02 - 01:27 PM

That great list of related threads at the head of this thread - did that happen automatically, Dave, or did you do something to bring it about? I haven't seen anything like it it on any other new threads so far - it's fascinating, but a bit intimidating.


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Subject: RE: About to commit a MONDEGREEN for Gilderoy
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 03 Oct 02 - 05:07 AM

Hi Kevin, I only refreshed this thread, but I've noticed the phenomena happening on other threads, so I assume it's a feature of the new-look Mudcat. BTW - are we likely to see you at Tenterden this weekend ? I think that Derek, Simon, and Colin are planning come down from your neck of the woods.


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Subject: RE: About to commit a MONDEGREEN for Gilderoy
From: An Pluiméir Ceolmhar
Date: 09 Jan 03 - 05:58 AM

Have we the makings of the first academic thesis on Harry Potter here - "Folksong influences in the early works of JK Rowling"?


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