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The tunes are here (in the DT)

Susan of DT 24 Jun 97 - 08:40 PM
Dale Rose 24 Jun 97 - 08:54 PM
Max D. Spiegel 24 Jun 97 - 09:34 PM
awed but realistic 25 Jun 97 - 04:17 PM
Max D. Spiegel 25 Jun 97 - 06:20 PM
Joe Offer 26 Jun 97 - 02:51 AM
Alan of Australia 26 Jun 97 - 03:00 AM
Max D. Spiegel 26 Jun 97 - 03:50 AM
Susan of DT 26 Jun 97 - 05:53 AM
Susan of California 26 Jun 97 - 11:03 AM
Helen 28 Jun 97 - 11:12 PM
alison 29 Jun 97 - 05:42 AM
dick greenhaus 30 Jun 97 - 05:08 PM
Joe Offer 30 Jun 97 - 06:40 PM
dick greenhaus 01 Jul 97 - 10:52 AM
Rick 01 Jul 97 - 12:50 PM
Alan of Australia 10 Sep 97 - 06:49 PM
Bill D 10 Sep 97 - 06:59 PM
Alan of Australia 11 Sep 97 - 03:30 AM
Bill D 11 Sep 97 - 11:34 AM
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Subject: THE TUNES ARE HERE
From: Susan of DT
Date: 24 Jun 97 - 08:40 PM

You can now listen to the tunes to more than half of the songs in the Digital Tradition - 3600 or 3800 or so. Near the bottom of the file it says something like "click here to play"

Let's all thank Dick and Max for getting this to work. They were attempting to program together at a distance to get AskSam to call Songwright to play your midi in HTML, which was a bigger problem than expected.

For those who are familiar with the Digital Tradition on disks in DOS, it is a little different - no "bouncing ball" of the words popping up as the note plays - or the MAC version with printed music - but you can now hear the tune when you want to.

ENJOY!


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Subject: RE: THE TUNES ARE HERE
From: Dale Rose
Date: 24 Jun 97 - 08:54 PM

Maybe I wasn't the first to play a tune, but it looks like I am first to say so. For the record, I played Mary of the Wild Moor. Thank you, Thank you!


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Subject: RE: THE TUNES ARE HERE
From: Max D. Spiegel
Date: 24 Jun 97 - 09:34 PM

3013 to be exact. All should know that if you hold the shift key down when you click the link to the midi file, you can save it to your hard drive. Dick and I are looking for some good freeware so you can print the score from the midi.

later...


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Subject: RE: THE TUNES ARE HERE
From: awed but realistic
Date: 25 Jun 97 - 04:17 PM

before the complaints start, everyone should know that, as with the words--the tunes here are NOT definitive-- these are the tunes that were laboriously entered by volunteers and some of them may not be exactly as you remember them or even as they are usually done, but they will serve to give you a good idea of what this tune sounds like. ALL folk music is constantly being revised, changed and re-thought-(not always for the better, but YOU can always change it back again!) I have already listened to several tunes that I do not agree with totally, but I am eternally grateful that this was done at all, and I will take what I find here as a starting point and an aid to my memory. I suggest that everyone do the same -and thank Dick & Max and everyone who has contributed Midi files to this monumental work.


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Subject: RE: THE TUNES ARE HERE
From: Max D. Spiegel
Date: 25 Jun 97 - 06:20 PM

If we can get the rights or permissions from any of the original artists, copyright owners or record companies, we can put up the actual recorded songs with Real Audio (TM). Now that we have the technology, we are all going to push it to see how far we can take it. Dick and I will be thinking hard about this because it is the 'multi' in multimedia. Video is next if the financing and interest is there, then something else. The goal is to make the best e-zine on the planet without getting sued. I guarantee this will be the best and most interactive and live site available without a fee and without advertisers. A small goal. And withing a month.

later...


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Subject: RE: THE TUNES ARE HERE
From: Joe Offer
Date: 26 Jun 97 - 02:51 AM

Hi - nice job with the midis. Say, is there a way for us greedy folks to download ALL the midis??

-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: THE TUNES ARE HERE
From: Alan of Australia
Date: 26 Jun 97 - 03:00 AM

I really appreciate the work with the MIDIs, and second Joe's request to be able to download the lot.

Cheers,
Alan


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Subject: RE: THE TUNES ARE HERE
From: Max D. Spiegel
Date: 26 Jun 97 - 03:50 AM

You can go to http://www.deltablues.com/midi and see the lot and take what you want. I will zip it all up and offer the whole thing as well.


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Subject: RE: THE TUNES ARE HERE
From: Susan of DT
Date: 26 Jun 97 - 05:53 AM

Max - We usually count songs for which there are tunes, rather than separate tunes, since some are used many times, such as Tramps and Hawkers or Limerick Rake. Many tunes have three or four sets of words.

If people could download play.exe and the tune.zip they could get all the songs in songwrite format (plays on beeper rather than midi). However, the tunes are identified by filename of the tune, which is no longer visible on the web version. If it is easy to have the midi files ready, this step would not be necessary. Are the midi files also identified by filename? If so, there will need to be some kind of index.


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Subject: RE: THE TUNES ARE HERE
From: Susan of California
Date: 26 Jun 97 - 11:03 AM

That was fun! There are so many tunes I wanted to know after reading the lyrics, now I have a source! Yippeee! Now, if I can only finish my algebra class, I might actually have a chance to learn a few of them....:-)


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Subject: RE: THE TUNES ARE HERE
From: Helen
Date: 28 Jun 97 - 11:12 PM

Susan,

Just do what I did and quit your job - a flying leap into economic insecurity (some ideas in the pipeline however) but just think of how much music playing, practising, listening,notation reading, internet surfing etc etc I will get before the bailiffs come and take the computer away. I guess I'll have to take up singing when they take the harp away too. Helen (a harper from Oz)


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Subject: RE: THE TUNES ARE HERE
From: alison
Date: 29 Jun 97 - 05:42 AM

Hi

Thanks for all your hard work, it is much appreciated.

Slainte

Alison


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Subject: RE: THE TUNES ARE HERE
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 30 Jun 97 - 05:08 PM

This posting is mainly to get the announcement back to the top. I'd like to remind folks, however, that I can only enter tunes that I know or I have. If we're to keep the ratio of tunes to lyrics increasing, we'd we;come tome tune submissions. ASCII, Fa-Sol, ABC, SongWright, GIf, MIDI---don't make me no never mind.


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Subject: RE: THE TUNES ARE HERE
From: Joe Offer
Date: 30 Jun 97 - 06:40 PM

Hi, Dick - are you interested in revisions to the midis you have? I had noticed that the tempo of a number of the tunes was a bit "off," but I thought it was just a flaw in our runtime version of Songwright. Well, the same flaws exist in many of the midis, so a good number of the tunes could use some revision. Do you want us to get to work on them?

Have you gotten around to making us a zipped copy of all the tunes for downloading?

-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: THE TUNES ARE HERE
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 01 Jul 97 - 10:52 AM

Joe- a) I'm always interested in revisions and corrections. b)The only problem with a zipped copy of the MIDI files is that the tune often has a different name than the lyruc, since many songs share tunes, and we only enter them once. When we added MIDI, I goofed, and didn't display the tune filenames. We'll work out something (including a no/low cost way of printing the scores.


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Subject: RE: THE TUNES ARE HERE
From: Rick
Date: 01 Jul 97 - 12:50 PM

W.R.T. Midi players / printers, have you come across Noteworthy?

It takes midi as well as its own format files, displays them as musical notation and prints and plays them too. It's really a composition tool.

Downside is that it costs about $39, but there is a more or less fully functional demo version (only allows a file to be saved 10 times) for download from the Web site here

Try it out...


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Subject: RE: THE TUNES ARE HERE
From: Alan of Australia
Date: 10 Sep 97 - 06:49 PM

Help!!
The URL for downloading the midis seems to have changed. Where is it now?

Even with problems it would be nice to be able to download a zipped copy of all the tunes.

Cheers,
Alan


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Subject: RE: THE TUNES ARE HERE
From: Bill D
Date: 10 Sep 97 - 06:59 PM

Alan..it's just an extension of the new general address...a lot of folk seem to be shut out and otherwise lost right now....go here http://www.onstagemedia.com/mudcat/download.html ..for the tunes...

(if you know any email addresses for others who may not be able to get in..., send 'em this address

http://www.onstagemedia.com/mudcat/

I sent 30 or 40 that I found...(just did a search on the @ sign in the forum threads and copied addresses for those I hadn't seen in awhile..) but there are lots of others, I'm sure....


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Subject: RE: THE TUNES ARE HERE
From: Alan of Australia
Date: 11 Sep 97 - 03:30 AM

Thanks Bill, but that's not the page I used to get for midis only. There used to be a page that just listed all the midis, nothing else.

By the way I got tour email thanks.

Cheers,
Alan


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Subject: RE: THE TUNES ARE HERE
From: Bill D
Date: 11 Sep 97 - 11:34 AM

ok...*sigh*..looks like Max has a lot of work to do....


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