ID: 365 Date: 1900s - 2006 Title: Jam, jam Gender: Male and Female Classification: Skipping Rhyme: Jam, jam apple tart, Tell me the name of your sweetheart, A, B, C.. (Timaru, 1960s; Christchurch, 1960s; Fairlie, 1960s; Palmerston, 1960s; Tolaga Bay, 1970s; Paraparaumu, 1986; Auckland, 1990s x 4; Timaru, 1990s; Christchurch,1990s x 2; Hokianga,1990s; Dunedin, 1990s; Hamilton, 1990s; Lower Hutt, 1990s; Wainuiomata, 2000; Napier, 2000 x 2; Rotorua, 2000 x 2;Hamilton, 2000 x3; Wellington, 2000; Greytown, 2002; Porirua, 2003 x 3; Wairoa, 2005) -- [X, X], come with me, (come to tea) [X, X], marry me. Yes / no / yes / no. (Kaitaia, 1990s; Springston, 1996; Rotorua, 2000; Wellington, 2002) -- Jam, jam apple crush, Tell me the name of your true love. A, B, C, D.. (Christchurch, 2006) -- Apple crumble, apple tart, Tell me the name of your sweet heart. A,B, C, D.. (Dannevirke, 2000) -- Jam, jam, apple squat, Tell me the name of your sweetheart, A, B, C.. (Blenheim, 2000) -- Jam, jam, apple touch, Tell me the name of your sweetheart, A, B, C.. (NZ, 1990s) -- Raspberry, gooseberry, Apple jam tart, Tell me the name of your sweetheart, A, B, C.. (Kerikeri, 2002) -- Peanut butter, marmalade jam, Tell me the name of your boyfriend. A, B, C.. (Palmerston, 1990s) -- Ice cream, jelly, apple tart, Tell me the name of your sweetheart. A, B, C, D.. [X, X], come to tea, [X, X], marry me, Yes/no/yes/no.. (Northland, 2000; Lower Hutt, 2002; Wellington, 2002) -- Raspberry, strawberry, apple jam, Tell me the name of your young man. A, B, C.. (Gisborne, 1950s) -- Blackberry and apple tart, Tell me the name of your sweetheart. A, B, C.. (Gisborne, 2001) -- Jelly, jelly apple tart, Tell me the name of my sweetheart, A, B, C.. (Wellington, 2002) -- Apple jelly, jam tart, Tell me the name of your sweetheart. A, B, C.. Does he love me? Yes/no, yes/no Will he invite you out for tea? Yes/no, yes/no. Will you get married? Yes/no, yes/no. What colour dress will you wear? What colour shoes will you wear? Where will you get married? (bathroom, toilet, church, garden) What will you be wearing? (dress, underwear, nothing) What will your husband be wearing? (tuxedo, boxers, nothing) How many babies will you have? Where will you have your children? (hospital, rubbish dump, bed) What sort of ring? (ruby, diamond, emerald, sapphire) Where will you live? (city, country, town) What will you live in? (castle, palace, pigsty, mansion) (Napier, 1990s; Ashburton, 1990s; Masterton, 1990s) -- Alternative first lines: Raspberry, strawberry, blackberry jam. Apple jelly my jam tart. (See Sutton Smith, 1959:79) -- Each, peach, apple tart, Tell me the name of your sweetheart. A, B, C.. (Taranaki, 1920s) -- Background Info: Similar button counting rhymes noted by Opie, 1967:339. In 1823 a recount given from 1770s of the rhyme which foreshadowed the destiny of a young school boy. "Sowja, sailor, tinker, tailor, apothecary, plow-boy, thief.." used when counting buttons on a new waistcoat. Girls similarly counted beads on a necklace to predict their future. Closely related to "Rich man, poor man, beggar man, thief. Doctor, lawyer, Indian chief". == See Abrahams, 1969:168. Also used when counting buttons, flower petals. == Sutton-Smith,1959:41, describes Flower and Grass Games being played by girls, where a details of a husband and future life is determined by pulling off petals or ears of a rye grass (1870-1920). == See Turner, 1978:18 for extensive divination variations including: What colour will your house be? What number will your house be? How many children will you have? How many beds will you make? How many bottles will you use? How many grandchildren will you have? How old will you be when you die? (Victoria, 1900-1973) == Bauer, 2002,Sect. 68:6, noted the following variations: Peanut butter, Marmite, jam, Tell me the name of your sweet man. (Kaitaia, c. 2002) Strawberry, banana, apple pie, Tell me the name of your sweetie pie. (Hamilton, c. 2002) Ice cream soda, caramel punch, Tell me the name of your honey-bunch. (Hastings, c. 2002) == Detailed discussion on this divination game in Opie, 1997:245-250, including numerous variants. == Butler, 1989:43 records a skipping rhyme version from US beginning: I love my Papa, that I do And momma says she loves him too. But Papa says he fears someday With some bad man I'll run away. Whom will I marry? Rich man, poor man, beggarman, thief, Doctor, lawyer, merchant, chief.. Also a similar rhyme from Spain (1967): I would like to know my vocation: Single, married, widowed. I would like to know whom I'll marry: Narro, Pepe, Luis, Juan, Antonio: I would like to know the day I'll marry: Monday,Tuesday..Sunday. I would like to know the month I'll marry: January..December. Similar versions from Peru, Puerto Rica and Austria. == Keywords: divination, life passages, Location: Various NZ Group size: 8 Incidence: 52