ID: 37 Date: 1948 -2002 Title: Tinker, tailor Gender: Female Classification: Skipping Rhyme: Tinker, tailor, soldier, sailor, Rich man, poor man, Beggar man thief. (NZ ex Australia, 1948; Auckland, 1960s x 2; Christchurch, 1960s; Awanui, 1980s; Christchurch, 1990s; Dannevirke, 2000; Whakatane, 2002) -- Background Info: Opie, 1967:339, In 1823 a recount given from 1770s of the rhyme which foreshadowed the destiny of a young school boy. "Sowja, sailor, tinker, tailor, apothecary, plow-boy, thief.." used when counting buttons on a new waistcoat. Girls similarly counted beads on a necklace to predict their future. == Sutton-Smith,1959:41, describes Flower and Grass Games being played by girls where details relating to a husband and future life is determined by pulling off petals or ears of a rye grass. (1870-1920) == Turner, 1978:106 records 1960s version of this universal rhyme: Tinker, tailor, soldier, sailor, Rich man, poor man, Beggar man thief. Lady, baby, gypsy queen, Elephant, monkey, mandarin. (Canberra, 1961) == Opie, 1992:404 records variation: Lady, lady on the sea-shore, She has children one to four, The eldest one is twenty-four, Then she shall marry a tinker, tailor.. == Onwuchekwa, 2003:122 records from urban black America: Gypsy, Gypsy, please tell me, What my husband's gonna be. Rich man, poor man, baker man, thief, Doctor, lawyer, Indian chief. == From Gullen, 1950:11comes the Scottish variant: A laird, a lord, A rich man, a thief, A tailor, a drummer, A stealer o' beef. (Button count rhyme) A lord, a laird, a lily, a leaf, A piper, a drummer, a hangman, a thief. (Counting rings on a top) == Keywords: divination Location: Various NZ Group size: 2 Incidence: 8